Cues for Sale... Without Extensions

Well, I don't usually follow this stuff, but I have noticed some things at the pool hall. The other kids have gizmos and whiz banger attachments.

I see butt extensions, joint extensions, and joint weights. So I looked on the web and sure enough, they are all for sale "mainstream".

What surprised me was that the OP said " it's almost impossible to play without one". I found that statement striking. What changed?

I don't keep up with the organized sport anymore, when I watch videos they are from the last century. So I looked at what is going on. I saw one article where a promoter uses fake smoke machines so the tournament looks smoky on camera, to create the expected atmosphere.

They have shirts available that look like they came off a pro bicycle rider. Some kind of "high performance" spandex-like material. I went and looked at Jayson Shaw's high run and he was wearing one. He beat Mosconi, and Schmidt, by a lot. Jason had the shirt, but didn't use an extension. Was it the shirt? Of course, Mosconi's run still stands as an actual competition run.

While Shaw famously popularized playing with a permanent 7-to-10-inch rear extension for years to gain added stability, weight, and reach, he actually removed it before his major straight pool milestones. Was this a stunt? A daredevil maneuver? Like- "Don't try this at home kids."

So, further investigation reveals there is special underwear for pool now as well. And shoes.

Mosconi set his record in actual competition with a Rambo cue. No extension. No spandex. I have no idea what kind of underwear he was wearing. He was wearing black leather dress shoes.

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So, these are coming back? Well, except this is made of wood.

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On a side note, a few years ago a dude came up to me at the pool hall. He said another dude said to ask me because I knew a lot about cues. He said he wanted to buy a mid extension for his cue but he didn't know how to make sure it matched the taper of his cue. Not kidding.

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I have no extension. I might be a daredevil.
What was the table size and pockets on that tabke that Mosconi run that high run?
I doubt that he eould run half of that on modern equipment.

Regardless, the extension is a tool. You can skip on it and be handicapped or adapt.
I remember Earl Strickland going against jump cues, eventually he adapted snd got one.
You can bitch about progress and stsy behind or get in front.

I don’t like those stupid shirts either in terms if designs but those new age fabrics designed for sports feels nice and easy to move on.
They also dry fast so if you are on the road playing tournaments, easy to wash in the sink and it’s really by morning

Cues for Sale... Without Extensions

Guy claims that he was a hundred ball runner before extensions were a thing, now it is impossible to play without one.

Obviously "impossible to play without one" is a bit hyperbolic, but I think the intended point is "wouldn't choose to play without this additional tool" now that we've all been exposed to it and the additional flexibility it offers.

That's were I fall. I certainly can play without one and will go weeks without pulling it from the case, but when I need it I'm really really glad to have it and I wouldn't buy another cue that isn't able to except one for that reason.

WNT, WPA and 2026

Frazer did hint at the Florida Open at another potential major in the U.S. in the future Really seems like WNT is putting a lot of eggs in the US basket, and I have to wonder why. What are they seeing?
The same thing most foreign World Cup visitors saw...one of the greatest countries in the world.🇺🇸

Heck we have states with economies bigger than most countries. I don't know for a fact, but it hard for me to imagine any other country spend as much on personal recreation than we do...especially when every redneck I know has a 20k side by side and usually a 50k boat in the garage.

Its really not that hard to imagine why EF wants the American market$$$. If, and that is a mighty big IF, pool ever catches fire again, I imagine they would want to be well established.

Cues for Sale... Without Extensions

Guy claims that he was a hundred ball runner before extensions were a thing, now it is impossible to play without one.

Well, I don't usually follow this stuff, but I have noticed some things at the pool hall. The other kids have gizmos and whiz banger attachments.

I see butt extensions, joint extensions, and joint weights. So I looked on the web and sure enough, they are all for sale "mainstream".

What surprised me was that the OP said " it's almost impossible to play without one". I found that statement striking. What changed?

I don't keep up with the organized sport anymore, when I watch videos they are from the last century. So I looked at what is going on. I saw one article where a promoter uses fake smoke machines so the tournament looks smoky on camera, to create the expected atmosphere.

They have shirts available that look like they came off a pro bicycle rider. Some kind of "high performance" spandex-like material. I went and looked at Jayson Shaw's high run and he was wearing one. He beat Mosconi, and Schmidt, by a lot. Jason had the shirt, but didn't use an extension. Was it the shirt? Of course, Mosconi's run still stands as an actual competition run.

While Shaw famously popularized playing with a permanent 7-to-10-inch rear extension for years to gain added stability, weight, and reach, he actually removed it before his major straight pool milestones. Was this a stunt? A daredevil maneuver? Like- "Don't try this at home kids."

So, further investigation reveals there is special underwear for pool now as well. And shoes.

Mosconi set his record in actual competition with a Rambo cue. No extension. No spandex. I have no idea what kind of underwear he was wearing. He was wearing black leather dress shoes.

abc64a18e86fa93560123108274e6ac1


So, these are coming back? Well, except this is made of wood.

please-help-identifying-a-three-piece-cue-with-no-maker-v0-u_qKhzkn_dyfQ-vJN6RGdGlkJFvHpolJfwEDECcmoNM.jpg


On a side note, a few years ago a dude came up to me at the pool hall. He said another dude said to ask me because I knew a lot about cues. He said he wanted to buy a mid extension for his cue but he didn't know how to make sure it matched the taper of his cue. Not kidding.

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I have no extension. I might be a daredevil.

Traveling to Larkspur CO - Places You Play?

Felt is the obvious one and is a good choice. It’s where I typically go when there. I have not been to GKs on Federal but might get there if I want to play some three cushion. I have not been to Piazzas at least since it has been Piazzas. Maybe someone there can confirm- did Piazzas used to be Patrick’s? I played some at Patrick’s when it opened, but that was like ‘88 or ‘89. I can’t believe it was that long ago. But Piazzas looks like it changed a bunch and has new and different equipment etc… Everything I have heard about it or seen on their streams looks good, but I haven’t been there.

WNT Florida Open 2026, August 4-9, Orlando, Caribe Royale

Scott, Karl, and JJ all have such different styles.

Karl is totally cool with long and awkward pauses but light-hearted, funny, and a little self-deprecating.
Scott talks a lot, comes across as super complimentary and everybody's best buddy. Kind of the exact opposite of his on-table demeanor.
JJ is all business, he's not there for small talk he wants to talk about how Shane got a little funny on this 7 ball, will he settle for the long tough 8 ball or does he pound it pound it to the rail, bringing the miss into play but making the 8 & 9 ball easier.

I do like JJ best, but they are all pretty good in my opinion. This becomes obvious when you watch the abomination that is the Predator and women's announcers. Absolutely brutal

i also think JJ has the best player knowledge. if the three of them had to go on their own and start a sportsbook for pro pool, he would do best

Shaft out of something other than maple

Purple heart- especially for break shafts.

Laminates, dymondwood and others...

Joss once experimented with Lignum Vitae. I think it was good but there was a supply problem. White, dense, straight grain. I never played one but they have been discussed here. (EDIT: I think that is wrong. More likely it was Areno Blanco.)

Ash- snooker cues.

Raminwood. Cheap "garbage cues" endangered wood.

Varieties of spliced shafts. Usually something into maple.

Color? Tiger maple can look impressive in a shaft.

Think about this though, there is a reason cue makers look for the straightes grain for their shaft wood.

You might consider color pressure infused woods. Several makers have done those.

Cues for Sale... Without Extensions

I have zero interest in buying a $3k cue only to have to sent it off for an extension, wrap, refinish, whatever.

If I were to have another cue built I would insist it be fitted for an extension.

Lou Figueroa
Yeah, that sucks but if it's the cue you always wanted by a maker you desire a cue from and the price is right...............................
Right now that would be an Ebony tuxedo cue with no wrap and not an excessive amount of white. It's a "I would know it if I saw it" type of thing. And I am always a sucker for a Titlist conversion.

Shaft out of something other than maple

I have made solid wood furniture for many years but am just learning woodturning. I want to make a shaft for my favorite cue using something other than maple. I'm looking for wood that has some color and variable grain. Are there other woods that can make a low deflection shaft with low potential to warp?

David
Roasted Curly Maple (Kielwood) looks and plays great. Purpleheart is better for a break shaft.

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Cues for Sale... Without Extensions

I typically see most mid-extension users using them to get to a comfortable hand position where they're not falling off the back of the cue rather than keeping the same type of arm/hand position and sliding it forward. So you're right if they were just using it for extra length and keeping their back hand in the same position and relative to their body...but I think most are using them to get a more comfortable position instead. Which is unlike what many people who leave a rear extension on all the time are doing.

I use a 30" shaft, at just a hair shy of 6' that works for me great. I have a buddy who's got a solid 4-5" on me and uses a short mid extension for just that reason, he'd be too cramped on a standard length cue without and couldn't put his hand into the position he uses with his extension. the balance relative to your rear hand doesn't really change in that scenario.
I was just referencing balance points. Yeah, I had a custom 2 1/2" mid cue extension made for my cue, at 58" my last 2 fingers were past the butt cap holding air, I still don't hold my cue where the wrap is but at least my whole hand is on the cue. In a case like that I don't see what difference balance point makes, its always going feel forward balanced because the entire cue is in front of my rear hand.

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