Buckzapper said:

Handicaps in a tournament are for the guys that won't take their skirt off and play anyone even. Years ago if you asked for a spot, they'd tell you to go to the Boy's Club and play.

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Yeah right, absolutely, got it. So college football players should take their skirts off a play in the NFL, same with minor league baseball and college, right? They should be playing in the majors too. I always thought it was a sham that golfers needed to tour card to play professionally. When is Augusta anyhoo, I have not picked up my clubs in 20 years and have only played about 15 rounds in my life but I think I have a shot at the green jacket.

markjames said:

if elvis took up pool instead of music and acting, he would have been one of the greats

if the javelin thrower who got the gold medal in the 500BC olympics was playing gorst in nine ball today it would be a close game

if einstein never became a physicist but took up straight pool, his pattern play would have been extraordinary

if efren was born in new york and became a taxi driver, his navigation through traffic troubles in midtown would be legendary

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Definitely not saying that

skogstokig said:

maha is shirking the thread now but the argument that modern players never saw tough conditions and don't have cue power is obviously untrue. that screenshot is from a match 3 years ago but i've seen even worse, with talcum all over the cloth and in piles on the rail. they still shoot lights out..

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This was a match in the Philippines. Carlo and (I assume) Efren. This isn’t a Matchroom event or WPA.

Modern players do not see the same conditions during professional events like the players in the 70’s and 80’s did . That’s a fact. Why any newby want to try to make it sound like that didn’t happen is beyond me.

In the 80s, nobody had a good handle of what good conditions were, so every table, every tournament was different. different pocket size, different cushions, different conditions,. The whole reason Greg Sullivan started Diamond (PBATE) was because there were no standards. You’re all too lucky to not grow up in that period.

If we magically transport Gorst or Filler back to the 80’s, they would also have to adjust their game to the weird conditions, just like anyone today who walked into a bar and tried to play bar pool on the terrible conditions they have there. It’s not like we’re all world champions in a bar room environment when the tables suck. We all have to adjust. But I’m sure Fedor and Joshua could adjust as well as anybody as they are world generational champions. But it’s not like they’re gonna step back there and suddenly dominate because everything was different! All you gotta do is go to any local weird bar to find out how different it is. Can you just? of course you can. But you gotta adjust!

misterpoole said:

what is pin? does it


What is pin? does it have cory's ringwork?. are you going to add pics and place it in f/s section?

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Cory, for own reasons, only builds radial pin cues and shafts. He will not build using a different pin, only radial.
I am not acquainted with what Cory’s typical ring work is since I haven’t closely examined many of his cues.

Here’s a photo I just took of my Barnhart roasted maple shaft (RMS) shaft collar in daylight. Cory cannot use
the Kielwood trademark name but roasted maple is a equivalent synonym for torrefication which is Kielwood.

GoldCrown said:

Yep.. you just happen to make shots.

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Never know who's going to show up, me or my evil twin who can't make a ball.

mikepage said:

Yes, APA is a good example of blending players over a wide skill range so they can have effective actual competition.

Beyond that, though, we tend to exaggerate how prevalent handicapping is amongst serious players in USA. And we have this fantasy that handicapping doesn't happen elsewhere, like in Europe.

I show two things here. The first is the final 32 for this year's Interpool Open. You will recognize some of the names that have (0) after them. That number is where they start in a race to 11. It's not that this is a usual tournament; It's that there are a handful like this. And many of the top European players have handicapped tournaments like this in their records. The equivalent just doesn't happen in US, and there is no good reason for that.

The second is Alex Kazakis's tournaments in Cuescore over a few month period. You can see there are lots of handicapped tournaments, and they have players of all levels. And they get to draw a top world class player in a local event in a format where they just might win.


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Yes, a few handicap events exist at a higher level of play, but at least to this point, almost no event producers have gone this route, suggesting to me that they do not see it as a money maker. Even so, single night weekly handicap tourneys exist in pool halls all over America.

FYI,
Talking about Evansville, Indiana.

I have given two Delta Elite racks as presents to my two closest friends, Tommy Hill and Leland Silva.
Tommy’s was blue and Leland’s is black. It’s a gift every time gets used they’ll remember who it’s from.
And it racks as good as a template unless your table or cloth has issues. All the balls touch one another.