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nataddrho said:

In electronic hardware development it is a Bad idea to jump from an alpha stage to thousands (full production) without a beta stage. 100 tests the market and allows room for feedback.

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So before we have a real shot at getting one we have to wait for them to make them, sell them, get feedback, then finally they start making more available? I think getting one of the first 100 will be about the same odds as winning the lottery. Even though they are not available yet I'm sure a number of those first 100 are already spoken for.

j2pac said:

I think this kid will/can be as good as he wants to be. Should he choose to get the mental side of it completely dialed in, he's Darth Vader, or maybe Yoda. He reminds me of a Tiger Woods type talent, just waiting for Butch Harmon to come along and polish the edges. Maybe a lousy analogy, but...

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Yes, he has to get mentally stronger, but I think that's not the biggest issue. He shoots as straight as all but a handful in the men's game, but he is missing some features, especially in the areas of defense, kicking, and the use of two-way-shots. Until he's playing all the right shots, he won't be in the process of mastering all the right shots.

It is not uncommon for a young, really straight shooter, to never get around to becoming elite in the skills needed to beat players to the shot (the break, defense, kicking, jumping, using two-way shots, tactical conceptualization and general risk management). Today's brand of 9ball, with very tight pockets and a very narrow break box, requires a lot of grinding, and the big winners are those that complement their superior offensive execution with the knowledge and skills to beat opponents to the shot.

Even if he becomes mentally stronger and has the work ethic of an SVB, Gorst or Filler, he won't get to the top unless he becomes a more well-rounded player.

Wishing him well in his continued pursuit of excellence.

Sooner32 said:

other than a spot if I am going to play someone for money

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Why do you need a spot to be competitive for money and they don't need a spot to be competitive in a league? That's all it is. It's handicapping based on points instead of games because games in 9-Ball is not a reliable reflection of the amount of "work" each player did. Only two for the nine seems low to some until they realize that it's not just two. It's two plus the break, meaning if you break and run 5 or 6 often it can be a 15-point swing in the match score when playing someone of equal ability - the 7 or 8 points you get plus the 7 or 8 your opponent didn't get. That's often overlooked by those who strategize strictly by point. When you play someone better or worse than you a single 9-Ball can make up the entire spot or double it, so who wins the games is still important.

straightline said:

Man you got a thick friggn ego. You know it's not uncommon for people to optimize and maximize certain aspects of their craft. Musicians do it all the time. In their world, those that turn nazi over their formula get pushed off the stage.

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I was contemplating whether to even respond. I didn't even look at this until going through the thread again this morning.

It's not EGO, it's frustration, not even necessarily with you. I don't know if you read it or not, but I was taught this by EFREN REYES and I was JUST like you. I thought he has to be compensating subconsciously, blah blah blah, etc, etc.

That's why I gave you such a detailed explanation so that it wouldn't be a, that doesn't make any sense, situation.

And I can understand saying, yeah ok, but I don't really want to do it. You're not doing that. You continuously question it without even giving it a fair shot.

But like I said, I'm not going to continue beating a dead horse. You can learn from my experience and doing the same thing you are doing, deny, deny, deny, or don't. I really don't care. I'm even contemplating putting you on ignore, would be only the second person on my ignore list and I've been on this forum for over 20 years.

Just don't want the headache...

measureman said:

Is there a list of players somewhere?

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