Only the elite will eat...no matter the payouts. Kaci's little brother has more potential than Eklant at this point.

fastone371 said:

Maybe the cue ball was waxed.

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Are you referring to my video or the FB vid?

Bob Jewett said:

Not if they have signed an agreement that restricts their actions in return for something of value to them.

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I'm actually not sure what they do get that is of value... they get to pay to compete in the WPBA events?

Bob Jewett said:

I think there is a reason the restriction was included in the WPBA player contract. It would be good to know the history and reason of the restriction. We don't know that yet.

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Almost certainly in the agreement to restrict competition and for self-preservation. Players have no leverage

Bob Jewett said:

Not if they have signed an agreement that restricts their actions in return for something of value to them.

I think there is a reason the restriction was included in the WPBA player contract. It would be good to know the history and reason of the restriction. We don't know that yet.

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My point is it shouldn't be in the contract because the clause defeats the real purpose in my opinion.

If you give a contract to a player who wants to be a upcoming professional and its a sign it or never be one
of the upcoming professionals, many will choose to sign it because there isn't another womans tour in town
to go play.

That doesn't mean that harm isn't being done.

When things like this happen it shines a light on the issue and I have to hope that these conversations that spread
industry wide make the clause in the contract go away.

I think they should, but I am not running that show. It might even be that sponsors have a say in this.

All of us have a boss and the more people drawn into the fray should increase public response so sponsors
should have a stake in it.

336Robin said:

Exactly.
What players do on their free time should be up to them.

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If it was a league like the nfl. Where you sign a contract and your guaranteed money then yes they can tell you you can’t play somewhere else. These guys are free agents. They need to make a living. You want to restrict where they play sign them to contracts and give them guaranteed money. But that’s not happening anytime soon.

Bob Jewett said:

Not if they have signed an agreement that restricts their actions in return for something of value to them.

I think there is a reason the restriction was included in the WPBA player contract. It would be good to know the history and reason of the restriction. We don't know that yet.

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I always enjoyed your posts but lately the more I read your post the more I realize your an old man that has become out of touch with modern reality.

336Robin said:

Exactly.
What players do on their free time should be up to them.

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Not if they have signed an agreement that restricts their actions in return for something of value to them.

I think there is a reason the restriction was included in the WPBA player contract. It would be good to know the history and reason of the restriction. We don't know that yet.

Paul Bell said:

Under Tiger's hardness-ranking system, Everest is only a medium hardness while its harder Emerald is medium hard and its hardest tips, its break tips, are ranked hard and super hard, Dynamite, Break, and IceBreaker.

IceBreaker:
Hardness: Super Hard+ (7)
Durometer (Type A): 99+
Durometer (Type B/C): 96-99View attachment 925128
Break Laminated:
Hardness: Hard+ (6)
Durometer (Type A): 98
Durometer (Type B/C): 92-95
Dynamite Laminated (used in break cues):
Hardness: Hard (5)
Durometer (Type A): 97
Durometer (Type B/C): 80-83
Emerald Laminated:
Hardness: Medium Hard (4)
Durometer (Type A): 96
Durometer (Type B/C): 76-79
Everest Laminated:
Hardness: Medium (3+)
Durometer (Type A): 95
Mueller Durometer (Type B/C): 73-76
Onyx Laminated:
Hardness: Medium (3+)
Durometer (Type A): 95
Durometer (Type B/C): 73-76
Nitro Laminated Cue Tip- Darren Appleton Edition:
Hardness: Medium (3+)
Durometer (Type A): 95
Durometer (Type B/C): 73-76
Eagle Eye Laminated Cue Tip- Jayson Shaw Edition:
Hardness: Medium (3+)
Durometer (Type A): 95
Durometer (Type B/C): 73-76
Sniper Laminated:
Hardness: Soft-Medium (3)
Durometer (Type A): 94
Durometer (Type B/C): 72-75
Tiger Laminated:
Hardness: Soft (2)
Durometer (Type A): 93
Durometer (Type B/C): 65-69

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Correct, they list is as medium but apparently other people have had had the same problem as me where their particular Everest tips that came with their Vikore and Avid shafts played.

By contrast, the Ultra Skin Medium that came with my Meucci felt more like a soft medium, with this one feeling like a rock in comparison.

iusedtoberich said:

Agree, it's a good shot to know. My question is do you think this particular video is doctored in some way.

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Not doctored. With a little practice that is not a difficult shot