PuboH said:

I carefully replicated the shot in slomo and posted a video. The video is in Chinese, but I think the footage alone is enough. If you are interested you can watch it here Login to view embedded media
The slowmo starts at 1:06, and shows 8-first hit (almost split hit but nonetheless 8 first), 8-first hit (clearly 8-first), 4-first hit.

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Listen I don't understand anything you said, but it was a foul 1000% - maybe you're trying to justify something there but I got no clue what you were saying.

SBC said:

It's the indian....not the arrow.

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Remember the TV show Broken Arrow? I never heard them say that

Sooner32 said:

Everything you said in this post brought back memories for me. I had a lot of different cues but was fond of Meucci's in the late 80's and 90's. I was already interested in pool before the Color of Money came out but it really ignited it to another degree.

No telling how many shafts I sanded. I got a Joss and was in love with it, I think I really wanted the stainless joint at the time because I thought players better than me were using those. I wanted a Schon because I seemed to regularly take beatings from guys playing with Schon cues. I did have a "break cue" but it was whatever cue I liked the least. First cue was a Huebler sneaky, then an Adam. My cases were Porper and It's George and all my tips were Le Pro.

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Yeah had Porper and It’s George. I let too much stuff go. Some I don’t miss, but I’d sell cues and a couple I wish I kept. Couldn’t afford a lot of the cool stuff then, like the Josswest cues I admired or the fancy Meuccis. Kept the Huebler I ordered. Picked up a Huebler sneaky not long ago. I had an Adam plain birdseye with brass joint and nylon wrap. It was cheap but I wish I had it. Posted in another thread about never getting a Showcase sneaky Pete. They used to advertise in the magazines. $190 to your specs IIRC. A friend had one and it hit good. Seemed expensive for a sneaky. Showcase was a great store in Denver. Bought other stuff from them.

Flakeandrun said:

The first half of mine wore down quicker than the chalk I was using previously, but seems to hit the point of either an optical illusion or infinity, as I feel like I have been at half a cube for an eternity now. Got 4 cubes of the blue one, and really see no reason to switch. Grabs nice, it's clean.

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I have the green and the blue but I feel like the blue doesn’t stick as well. I put it back in the box but maybe I’ll try it again.

Bob Jewett said:

While the path of the cue ball does tell the story for this shot, it is not one of the simpler situations, like shooting between two frozen balls. I can see how the ref could be unsure about what a shot would look like if close to a simultaneous hit.

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A path of the cueball & The reaction of a cueball, one of the two can tell the whole story, I am sorry....it can 100% tell the whole story.

A simultaneous hit is a rare, very rare actually....let me say it again vvvvvvvvery rare, and if that happens I also can tell you that it might of happened based purely on cueball reaction and what the balls did after the shot, 100% I can tell you purely from the movement of the balls as a whole. But considering our rules in pool if that ever happen, and thats a big if here....lets say it happened where the cueball striked two balls simultaneously in the same second, then its a good hit and you cant foul anyone for that one.

But I can tell you, i always can figure out a good hit or a bad hit based on cueball reaction, and this isnt just from shooting into balls but I can also tell you from rails backhit prespective, I know what the cueball should do and what it shouldnt do, rail-first hits, rail-second hits....all that you can tell from the reaction of the balls, or the paths of them balls.

I saw a bustamante/daryl video clip above and I cannot believe how many times they kept running a slo-mo. I swear to god man there's absolutely noway to 100% determine a foul in pool by seeing the balls or squinting into the balls or even running slow-mo's, whoever keep checking videos to determine bad hits by running videos at 0.1 sec and frame by frame to see which ball was hit first, sir you're doing it wrong....100% wrong. The worst thing these guys did was going through the slow-mo over and over and over to see if its good hit or bad hit...all you need is the full-speed and watch the reaction of everything, I kept looking for a video of the whole thing but didn't find it...

Give me this Busty/Daryl video a full-speed of the actual shot, no slow-mo's and ill tell you if its a foul or not.

Fore Rail said:

DCP said,

"Yesterday I had about eight (8) chances where I felt I should run out. I hosed up five and got out three times."

My interpretation of the above does not mean 3 out of 8.

He could have broke 100 racks and in his opinion only had 8 decent chances to run out & managed to do so 3 times.

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You are correct. But it wasn't 100 breaks. It was more like 35-40. Of those 35-40 I had 8 spreads that I felt I should get out from. I hosed up five and got out three times.

I did manage to get this spread out earlier today though:

dendweller said:

You won't hear it on a GC7 either. I love the thwack too.

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Mine is a GC3 with drop pockets.
I enjoy walking around the table and rolling the balls out. Simple pleasures.

Patrick Johnson said:

A mile farther away with even more buildings between... sure, that makes as much sense as anything you've said.


Cabrini subsidized housing still exists there - the highrises were removed 15-30 years ago. Even then I doubt you could make out the detail you describe from the expressway - the pic I posted shows that.


I'm not trying to do that to anybody - but I can't help what you do to yourself.

pj
chgo

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Oops - I just noticed that you said you were talking about seeing Cabrini "back in the 90s" - yes, you could see the highrises then. Apologies for missing that.

I still wonder if you could really see the detail you describe or if you're just projecting from the historical myths (like everybody else). One detail I question is your description of "missing windows" - I doubt there would be any in Chicago Housing Authority highrises.

pj
chgo

Patrick Johnson said:

So you’ve never been to Chicago…

pj
chgo <-

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I am an Illinois native. Worked for the IL Dept. of Insurance for 13+ years, spent half that time in the greater Chicago area. But I left for good in 1988 with no regrets. I live in and love Georgia.