Unplayed new with no 4 year wait!

Being rare doesn't mean being valuable.

InsertCleverNameHere said:

A lot has been said in this thread and most of it is pretty hard to argue against.

But I'm surprised nobody has brought up the https://tglgolf.com It's a relatively new venture for golf and imo has some traction. Cities/teams etc ARE important for fan retention and brand loyalty. Most of the world is used to rooting for teams and not individuals with the obvious exceptions. Guys remember there was a time when "big league" baseball had to give the seat away. That's what needs to happen. It likely won't because the players are too narrow minded and the chance of a big sponser like AT&T or Nike or something just isn't incentivized to push pool/billiards. I do believe that if someone could run it for 5 years in the red it could catch on in a team setting if there was any sort of consistency at all. NObody has done anything consistently. A schedule/season that people can learn and expect. Teams that people can grow some attachment to. Pipe dreams really.

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Didn’t mention it because I forgot it exists- and I have seen it on the TVs at bars/restaurants. . It doesn’t do anything for me and I watch golf. I also listen a little to the PGA channel on XM and heard it mentioned.

I had to look it up to see more about the facility - the studio really. I thought it was in California, should have known better. Of course it is in Florida near where many players live and avoid state taxes. Makes sense. As has been discussed above, a single location team event hasn’t seemed to work. It might work for what it is, a minor off season thing. The father- son off season event probably dwarfs it in ratings, but I don’t know, I’m just guessing. Maybe I’m just an old get off my lawn curmudgeon, but I’d watch the Skins Game, father son, or a resurrected JC Penney PGA/LPGA partners event long before that. I would watch that before some other sports programming though.

btal said:

I'm all for fairness. Probably all of us here would be angry if your comment here is true (no reason to think it isn't). I would be.

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I was stating what I think Shaw believed.

Whether Hoang’s breaks were “too soft” is inherently subjective.

In WNT events Shaw breaks harder than most and feels many players break too soft and don’t get warned. So Hoang’s “too soft” breaks were probably consistent with what is allowed by some referees on WNT. And it’s possible that Shaw’s response of his own soft breaks were actually softer than Hoang’s.

But I do think Jayson legitimately believed Hoang was breaking too soft and wasn’t getting warned. And of course if Jayson was winning he wouldn’t have probably cared.

It’s rare but I doubt that it’s a collectible.
Don’t get your hopes high, especially in its current condition.

penguin said:

If he didn't need the money, he would have gone fishing instead of playing in Denver.

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He played in Denver and got to do both of the things he loves to do!

couldnthinkof01 said:

I don't know if I've ever met a baker in the pool hall. I feel like their hours might not be compatible.
Who needs pool when you have access to free doughnuts anyways?

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First, I'm happy to hear that she is doing well and moving forward on her life's journey as she sees fit and in a way that I hope brings her great joy and success.

Second, I have heard from many players that have competed against her or met her at tournaments that she really is a super young woman. People (women, in particular) gush about how engaging she is with the "everyday player" when she has the opportunity.

Third, I would think that there would be ways to be a baker and professional pool player, if she did something like opened a modest catering service (cakes, cupcakes, for birthdays and weddings or whatever) and could work around tournament dates. But she'll figure all that out in due time (which could be years from now).

I suppose its cool if you are in to that kind of thing. Predator has never done anything for me so eehh.

A good write up from Domenick Dunn:

Duong Duc Dunn match recap. [emoji1264][emoji1320][emoji89][emoji385]

Hell of a race to 120 battle it was.
[emoji89] [emoji1264] [emoji739] [emoji2528] [emoji1659]
Duong gets the win 120/93

Day 1 - 30-18 Duong wins
Day 2 - ended 60/56 Duong leading
(Shaw closed the gap winning 38/30 on day)
Day 3- ended 90/84 The day of drama.
(super close score of 30/28 on the day)
Then day 4 was night night 30/9.

One of the better ones we have seen in a while.
Pockets were like 3.9” w massive crowd.
The fans make Vietnam pool so beautiful.
They come out and support massively!
It was hot and condition were tough.

It made for more misses and more play.
Which as a fan, yah gotta love.
No one wants to see a run out fest on buckets.

The match had it all. Lead changes and drama.
Everytime match would get close, there would be complaining about chalk or soft breaking & other things.

This is all expected in a gambling match.
It’s rare you don’t see it so idk why anyone suprised.

Social media was buzzing.
Many sharing opinions that weren’t there and don’t understand what 2+2 equals.
Unfortunately after day 3, Shaw took to fb to clarify what is happening and his perception and thoughts by replying to some fans

Well many viewed him as disrespectful and rude etc. which I don’t think he was, there’s pressure and $ on the line. He took time to explain what’s going on and he wasn’t happy. No big deal.

Also, How cool is it that the players actually reply to the fans to help them understand their perception. What other sport can you interact on social media w the player so easily. Shaw does it and get demolished online.[emoji2357]

If anyone watched the match, you can see the cue ball was dirty from Duongs chalk.
When your siting a ball to pot, it’s distracting and can cause skids. That’s why he would have ball cleaned often. Not end of world.

Both broke soft many times & Duong got lucky a ton of times. It’s frustrating being a player and watching luck happen. I bet a lot on Duong personally so I was loving watching the luck happen. [emoji1787] Duong also played good as heck at times. He earned his win and no one taking that away.

But your blind if you think cue ball wasn’t dirty, both players didn’t soft break at times and Duong didn’t get more rolls lol cause those are facts and that’s coming from a guy who was team Duong (me).

Well anyway , you always got a few idiots.
Vietnam has arguably the best fan base and it’s a beautiful place. But u always got bad apples everywhere in every country. Well a few of those apples decided to write Shaw’s family and threaten their lives etc.

Have you seen the Philadelphia eagles win a Super Bowl & destroy their own city & harm others in celebration. Yeah we got clowns in USA too. They everywhere.

Needless to say going into day 4, Shaw wasn’t in it mentally rightfully so. Def shouldn’t have been something he had to deal with. People don’t understand how to not take shit so serious.

You also have to remember that most players are mentally going to give up final day in a long race. But they signed up for the long race so they need to act accordingly. But you would be a fool to not expect a player to give up on final day when trailing by a lot. 95% of players would unless they are Chang or Fedor lol Shaw did have fun with the crowd with the last few racks and they loved it.

I love the fact that Duong played hard til last ball regardless of lead. That was cool. He didn’t freewheel, he gave each shot its respect which is respect to the fans for coming out.

None the less. It is what it is.
Congrats to Duong. Heck of a performance.
The drama shouldn’t take away from his talent and victory! Go celebrate!

Once again, [emoji1264] shows us how big and beautiful pool family they are. Millions of viewers on both Facebook and YouTube. It was amazing seeing the numbers.

They love pool and we love you.

I’d love to see more of these vs Duong.
Huge numbers that view in and great talent.
Who’s next ??????? Fsr, Kaci, chua, oi, wu, capito…..
Then how about svb, Fedor, Yapp?

TIL next time - Duong Duc Dunn. We out. [emoji1365]