Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

Geography might have something to do with your experience. You moved from the state where Diamonds are made to the state where Valleys are made. Not that there are no Diamonds in Texas, but…

Well maintained or new Valleys play fine, although Diamonds are better. The balls make a big difference, and from your description is a big part of the problem.


Also- depends if an amusement company does the tables or the bar.

Dealings with Joe Salazar Connoisseur of Cues

Wow....An awful lot of people here jumping on the original poster and defending Joe when the OP clearly states that he is not bashing or making accusations against Joe: "This is not intended to bash, criticize, or make accusations against Joe Salazar or his family. Please keep comments factual and limited to your own firsthand experiences with consignment transactions". In fact, this post is hardly about Joe at all...it is a legal question regarding property left with a person other than the owner for a specific purpose, called "bailment", which is then complicated by the fact that the original person entrusted with the property has passed away.

Clearly, regardless of how complicated the process of determining what belongs to whom may be and the fact that Joe's grieving widow is left with this difficult task, property left in Joe's trust does not belong to Joe, nor to his estate...it must be returned to the original owners in the same condition, unless repaired and paid for as agree to.

Any attempt by the wife, or others, to retain such property can easily be considered tantamount to theft by conversion....certainly immoral.

Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

When I lived in Evansville IN, it seemed like every single bar in the city had Diamond tables.

Here in Austin TX, it is all Valley tables, with Nasty old Mud Cue balls, in my experience.

Maybe it is just me, but I just can't enjoy playing pool at all, using a Mud cue ball, and I understand that they are varying degrees of bad, with them.

I randomly found this bar in Downtown Austin, which was a really nice and very classic looking bar, and they had a nice line of 5 Valley coin op tables. All with nasty old Mud cue balls on them.

I tried playing / hitting some balls on one of them, and it was just so horrible. I could not even finish, it was so un enjoyable.

I believe that Diamond offers a free lease on coin op tables, for half of the profit, from what I read somewhere a long time ago. Not sure if that is still the case though.

Don't you think that a lot more players would visit a bar if it offered Diamonds, or at least Valley's with a decent set of balls?

And, why is it that most Valley coin op tables usually have these nasty old mud balls, that look like they are maybe 30 years old?

The funny thing is, that the pool scene in Austin is very lively. People just love to play pool here. There are always people on all of the pool tables.

Back in Evansville, where it seemed like every bar had a Diamond, they were always empty, and I rarely ever seen anyone playing on them, other then at the real pool halls.

So, maybe the type of table would not even matter, in these bars. The banger's will enjoy playing on them no matter what.

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