gregcantrall said:

Joss had Cole's specks on file and he could just call and ask for another. He was particular with the shaft and might go through a few made to the same dimensions to find one that was just right. The time he borrowed against his cue with me he had at least 4 shafts and 2 butts. Well one butt had been rebuilt having been cracked as Cole draped it over his shoulders with hands resting on opposite ends. Too much vodka that night

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Richard Black has a file for every cue he made.

He looked in his little file card box once and called out the specs I had used for cues he built for me almost 50 years ago.

DrCue'sProtege said:

No, that's not what they said.

They said 4-6 months.

They even said it's possible it could be a little sooner.

Who knows, I might be just a little over a month away.

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Are you waiting on production or something else?

MitchAlsup said:

Most young adults do not have the kind of income (or wealth) that would allow them to buy a high end cue.

And you don't fix that problem by making high end cues lower priced--
You fix the problem by making low end jobs pay more--
{{OR make lesser gamblers win big more often}}

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you hit it oh the head right there, good jobs and money running out the door in usa. very sad to see not to mention small business. thanks to govt regulations, taxes become impossible make good money in USA anymore. Its a mess.

They both have a quite low center-of-gravity !!

MitchAlsup said:

Point of order:: it is not a custom cue if the cue starts to get built before the owner specifies the parameters.
If you, the owner-to-be cannot specify the colors, rings, inlays, veneers, wrap; it is NOT custom

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You can specify all of these things, but they likely already are prepared somewhere.

MitchAlsup said:

For example, the Remington custom shop does not start your gun build before you specify what is it to be.

So, 'factory custom' is just a 'factory' cue and nothing more.

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I mean, you can ask Zen (仁杆) for just about anything you want, but most of what they are going to push to you is going to be selecting from parts they already have partially prepared. I would describe this as 'factory custom' - you can build from what's available (and have anything truly custom at an elevated price tag, and extended wait - it's 3 years already when selecting from basic items they already have prepared...). They recently opened a new 'showroom' // factory location, and it is interesting looking at the inside of such a place. Quite different I imagine from the handmade custom cues coming out of the US.

People buy what the market tells them to, very few have the brains to figure out what they actually like.

Looks good, especially your case bottom.... the leather strap thru the chrome loop hole is not dried out/cracked with age/use.

dendweller said:

Messing with someone elses cf shaft is something you really need to be confident in. There's a revo 12.4 in the for sale for 300 in the for sale section, far less than revos in good shape. This one's problem is the person that put the tip on put a fairly small scratch in the shaft. People say cf is indestructable and they may not bust all that easily but if you guage it, scratch it etc. you got a problem.

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CF is actually a pretty weak material in many load cases.

Flakeandrun said:

My observations here in China, would be that mass produced (in a new colour every season), and what I would call "Factory custom" are heavily outweighing true handmade, custom built cues.

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Point of order:: it is not a custom cue if the cue starts to get built before the owner specifies the parameters.
If you, the owner-to-be cannot specify the colors, rings, inlays, veneers, wrap; it is NOT custom
For example, the Remington custom shop does not start your gun build before you specify what is it to be.

So, 'factory custom' is just a 'factory' cue and nothing more.

SeniorTom said:

That's cool. I think a fair point to be made is that anything or any device can be used to shark somebody else. It's the statement a player makes when he performs a particular action that has intentions of distracting his opponent. Yes it could be an oxygen machine, it could be a glove, it could be disassembling your stick, and anything else that will distract your opponent.

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I've had people try to shark me with chalk before. I turned it into a reverse shark.

I will never shark someone first, but if they do it to me I will drag them down to my level and beat them with experience.

DrCue'sProtege said:

No, that's not what they said.

They said 4-6 months.

They even said it's possible it could be a little sooner.

Who knows, I might be just a little over a month away.

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Nah, count on 6 months. It's kind of like "two weeks." It will be done when it's done.

Dave38 said:

I use T-88 and it is a 24 hr cure time. It works VERY well, not cheap but worth it.

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Thank's Dave. I had looked that up and ended up ordering some BSI 5 min and 15 min stuff. They say the 15 min version is there most flexible, we'll see I guess. Quite honestly the reason I didn't get the T88 was I was able to get both the 5 min and 15 min for the same price as the T88. Hope I don't regret it. It is just a spare shaft for me so if I have problems I'll just have to redo it. I do appreciate all your help.