That was some good intentions so don't be to hard on them .

A long time friend of mine joined the Marine Corps and was stationed at Pearl Harbor sadly I've not seen him in many year's but he said it was one of the most memorable posts he could ever imagine ! The stories he had shared while he was there by survivors or even the families of those who lost a family member or a loved one was very moving !

Bump.

Bob Jewett said:

I think this is because Matchroom has run the Mosconi Cup for 32 years and has been promoting it all along. Traditional events gather a following.

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That and anything that features Europe vs 'Murca has surefire attraction going back to 1776.

I never in my wildest dreams expected to see the word "ennui" associated with pool... for those who don't know what it means this is the closest emoji I could find...

Thanks Bob!

j2pac said:

Let me clarify my position. Obviously I root for the U.S. team. That being said, if they lose, and it's a spirited but respectful competition, I have zero issue with that outcome. Yes, winning and losing matter, but more importantly for me, is how you play the game.
I would also point out that while Styer did miss that nine ball, for most of that match, he outplayed Moritz IMO. He was up 4-2 at one point, I believe. Hopefully he's not listening to anyone who believes that he doesn't have some ability. He definitely needs to get on with cleaning up the unforced errors, and practice with a purpose. If he can exercise his particular demons, he's more than capable of competing at a very high level IMO. He just needs to figure out how to believe that...

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Agreed here. From my recollection, Yapp struggled for a few years getting over the hump. For some it takes time. Some never do. I hope Tyler does.

To the point of the original post, I've also been perplexed by the loose use of "Sneaky Pete" these days. I've mostly played with basic four point players, 4 points, visible joint colors, a wrap, etc. I've had a couple people refer to them as Sneaky Petes, which is crazy to me. It doesn't bother me, they just don't look anything like a house cue to me.

To some of the other posters, I've also had "true" Sneaky Petes walk off. Yes, it can happen with any cue, but Sneaky Petes make it more common IME. I've also had people get made when I broke down a Sneaky Pete after playing in a bar, even if we weren't gambling and I made no suggestions to do so. I'd like "not so sneaky" Sneaky Petes and have played with one (visible joint ring at least), but can't see calling a cue that when it has wrap, veneered points, butt cap, stainless joint collar, etc. I'm not sure where the line is, but some of the cues being marketed as such go well over it for me. Marketed is the key word. I think "Sneaky Pete" gets a lot of hits and that's the main reason it gets thrown around.

skor said:

Labor and knowledge cost money

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Yes correct it profits exactly $30 every 15 minutes in the cue tip business, apparently- not knocking it - just saying that a big following in the tip install business is very good money !

Thank you for your insights, gentlemen. They all really are very much appreciated.

Just for clarification, I am compiling a provenance card detailing the history of the Romanique II balls, which were used at the 1976 event at Asbury Park in New Jersey.

I would like to include the tournament’s ordinal number on the card and was striving to be as accurate as possible.

The Making it in America one pocket tour main event at KB'S Grille and Pub in Kennesaw, Georgia starts at 10 am EST today.
Sergio Rivas vs Yash Ajmera will be on the stream table.
Go to www.PoolActionTV.com for all the purchase options to watch.
Bracket link https://digitalpool.com/tournaments/kennesaw-billiards-one-pocket-main-event-mia-tour/bracket

skor said:

I got some Moori tips from about 15-17 years ago when they changed a bit and were packed like pills
recently, I've installed a few of them and they are still good.
They used to be the best and the most expansive but today they are cheaper than newer brands. I would consider them today to be a good buy in today's prices.

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Thank you

Don't know where you got it, but I want some.

lfigueroa said:

Anyone remember the Jim Buss Bud Light cue conversion?

The piece da resistance was the slightly unraveled bit of wrap so a thread was always hanging down, lol.

Lou Figueroa

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If I remember right, it was Dave Peona that came through the North Wet with a 15 dollar Walmart Budweiser cue in a naugahide envelope soft case. He left with The Hat's money.

Matchroom sets the rules, doesn't it? And the same for both teams?

So many of these hypotheticals and "what ifs" don't really address the reality which I assume is Matchroom isn't going to allow some different set of rules for the U.S. vs. the rules for Europe, and to some extent "merit" in the sense of whatever measure from rankings or whatever they want to use is going to be part of it.

No doubt a captain can use additional picks within whatever criteria are allowed.

Still asking the question --- what's the big deal? If the U.S. produces better quality pros, the results may be different, but it's an annual exhibition and now it's in the rearview.

mikemosconi said:

Local guys here, who are not custom cue guys, want $35 to replace a tip with one that cost them maybe $5?

One can make a lot of money off league players if they have a strong following- the profit margin is enormous.

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Hungarian said:

Great idea Jay. By the sound of the chatter though, it sounds like Scott Frost will be captain. He’s already on the payroll and he was talking about something he can’t mention?

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What chatter? Not saying he won't be.

trob said:

I’m 53 and when I was first playing 30 plus years ago there was a lot of custom cues being played with and now It’s pretty rare. A big one around here was joss cues. It’s only like a 30 min drive away. So many people played with one and now I never see one and if I do it’s a much older player who’s had it forever.
I don’t think the industry will die but it’s not what it used to be. What may skew that for me is we have no pool halls in my area so all you really see are your bar league players and that doesn’t seem to be their thing. Maybe if you’re fortunate enough to goto pool halls you see a different kind of player.

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Yea- you don’t need much cue on a bar table - on fast 7 foot Diamonds you need a stroke that can deliver spin and kill -draw or inside- with accuracy on the shot itself.

Once Shane retires, the Mosconi Cup is dead.

If I was SVB, I would ask Matchroom for a lot more than $20k.

The event needs him.

Is Scott Frost really a coach? Even if he's the second coming of Johan, he can't just wish new good players into existence.

Shane is gone soon and his MC record sucks anyway. It's not like at 43 next year he's gonna find a higher gear.

Fedor would still be in Russia if he wasn't worried he'd have to fight (not that I blame him, that doesn't mean you care about the US).

Our 3-10 just are way behind the Euros...and no pipeline.

DaWizard said:

There might be a business model. But even more if I was very rich, then I would be excited to be the founding father of a (possible) renaissance in a sport I'm passionate about.

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A lot have started like that!

VVP said:

Nice summary from Bill's Yard Facebook page.

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66 to 28 is a multi year ass whippin'

Therein lies the problem, sir. I just don’t know.

Wikipedia suggests the 1976 event was the 97th and 2010 is as far as their list goes. 2010 being the 112th if they are accurate.

A poster appeared on AZB promoting a 2011 World Straight Pool Tournament as the 71st staging of the event.