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Oops I did it again (Yapp's) foul in a final, a second time!

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WobblyStroke said:
Bad reffing. Plain and simple. Yapp knew it. FSR couldn't see as he was seated behind Yapp. Ball path makes it obvious. If you slow down the vid to 0.25x speed, you can clearly see the 4 move first...if knowing the physics of the shot isn't enough for you.

Baffles the mind how a professional ref doesn't just think to themselves, "if CB goes this way, good shot, if that way, foul" before the shot is even taken.

Would've been nice to see Yapp call a foul on himself there. I get it, if ref doesn't call it, it's not a foul, and as a player you just take those when it's your turn. I know one thing for certain; Ronnie O'Sullivan would have called it on himself.
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Yes Ronnie would have called it on himself, and I think I would have called it on myself also. I would have been much happier if Yapp called it on himself but he didn't....I mean look at his face again as the 8ball went down, he couldn't even breathe he knew its a foul.

This is the 2nd time that he won the final rack of a major finals tournament with a foul. I'm still convinced that he touched the 9ball on my other post about yapp's final, but yea...it is what it is, tournaments with horrible referee's what can you say.
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Oops I did it again (Yapp's) foul in a final, a second time!

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loggerhead12 said:
Sharivari did a good job with the breakdown.

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This is exactly what I've been saying, no need to eye-ball it with your eyes I dont know why ref's do this. it is amazing to me when they do this, especially that one clown ref I always forget his name, he comes very close and squints his eyes, its hilarious.

All you need is to understand the cue-ball reaction, its very simple. I can tell a foul or not from a mile away and here in the video above what the man says is exactly what I wrote in my original post, the direction of the cueball told you everything.
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WNT, WPA and 2026

Jaden
uk_9_ball_convert said:
If they are closer to parallel than spec, does that mean they are even more difficult?

Why do you think the left facing has been done poorly (not saying your wrong, just curious to learn)
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That would mean that they're easier, the closer to parallel the more likely the ball will rebound off of them into the hole instead of the opposite facing. but those pockets are shimmed, so they are more difficult. When you tighten pockets, you want to extend the rail bed, having thicker or stacked facings will deaden the rebound and make it more difficult to make balls and create a higher likelihood of rattle.
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Oops I did it again (Yapp's) foul in a final, a second time!

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Cornerman said:
So, I thought it was a foul immediately, but now I am not sure. In fact, I've convinced myself that it's a good hit. This is the top view. If the 8-ball is hit last, the immediate motion off the 8-ball would have to follow the tangent line toward the brown area near the side pocket or it would stop I suppose. If it's a good hit, then the cueball will immediately follow the tangent of the 4-ball. That would be towards the yellow/green area, which is exactlly where cueball went. Maybe others see it different.

Why did Yapp hesitate and just stand there? He sent me a note, so this isn't conjecture. He knew it was really close and was waitng for the ref to confirm. The confused look was that the ref didn't say he won the match, so then it went through his head that maybe it was a Race to 13, and he didn't realize it.

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hahahahaha, I don't know what you smoked before writing this....please lmao
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Oops I did it again (Yapp's) foul in a final, a second time!

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Badpenguin said:
People keep saying this is a foul based on where the cue ball went, which I understand. But I am also curious where the cue ball would go if it is a simultaneous hit and there was spin on the cue ball, and if simultaneous hits are considered legal by these rules.
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simultaneous is very rough and kind of impossible but lets entertain it, if you hit both balls at the same exact time - then if you got draw on the cueball then it would draw in between both balls going backward, and if you have follow then it would go tangent in between both balls exactly, provided you are coming straight behind both balls (Not the actual footage of the incident).

For the incident if he hit both of them at the same time i would guess with a draw it will come back exactly where it came from direction-wise. I could be wrong on this, but why do you want to know this tho...
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Brunswick cues? Dufferin?

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garczar said:
chinese import. made in same shop as lucasi,players, pred and a bunch others. Dufferin got bought by Cue-n-Case and everything is chinese now.
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Thank you for that info - not sure why it was so hard to find when I was I looking.

I figured for the price and being a decal cue it was going to be made in China, but having used them in the past I figured they were less risky. Yes, I know Viking and McDermott have some nice Chinese made cues, but none of them really moved me.

Worse case I don't like the feel and keep it as a spare or break cue. Still not even sure I have enough free time to play, but definitely not at a point that I feel comfortable taking my 30+ year old equipment out.
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