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surely this has happened in a big match, what's the rule??

Cuebuddy
I believe that we’re all old guys sitting around thinking.
Good question though.
In my opinion until we start using AI refs, then any human ref would let the player change shafts.

As far as gluing a new tip on, no.

Personally I would no doubt glue my thumb and my finger to the tip and a fair bit of the ferrule.
Most of my shots after that would have to be made with the side of the shaft.

Therein lies the problem.
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surely this has happened in a big match, what's the rule??

GideonF
Interestingly, at snooker if the tip comes off, the player can take a break to have a new tip put on. I believe that if the tip is merely damaged, the player must play on. Of course in snooker a player almost never has a second cue (most professionals use a one piece cue).

At pool, players are expected to have a second shaft. I’d be curious if the referee has a discretion to pause the shot clock if the player needs to change shafts in that situation, or if the player just has to use his break cue until he has time to change shafts.
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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

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GideonF said:
I don’t know if this has been tested, but my belief is that sudden movement or sound in a quiet and still environment is way more distracting than a lot of constant movement and sound. So if I wanted to distract a basketball player shooting a free throw, I would have everyone sit still and then have one fan suddenly move and shout as they are shooting.

That accords with my own experience in the pool hall. A bunch of people walking in the distance is easier to fade than sudden movement in a still environment as I’m shooting.
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In the context of trying to distraction basketball players while shooting free throws, there are some studies and I think they do apply to taking a shot in pool. One of the better-known discussions around this involved neuroscience writer Daniel Engber. The basic finding was that sudden synchronized movement by fans appeared to work better than continuous chaos. Duke fans used one technique called the "silent scream."

The “silent scream” specifically was the idea that:
  • fans stay eerily still and quiet while the shooter sets up,
  • then all make a sudden synchronized motion or loud noise/scream at the same time, just before the release of the ball
The theory was that the brain habituates to constant noise, but a novel, abrupt change grabs attention at exactly the wrong moment. That lines up with broader sports-psychology findings that unexpected auditory or visual stimuli can disrupt attentional control and reaction timing.

So, yes, we all shoot pool in bars and loud environments. But in a silent environment, like a tournament, an unexpected noise just before or during the final stroke can cause a miss because the body twitches in reaction. And the level of professionalism of the player won't help.
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Discussion: Focusing on the cue ball compared to other sports

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JohnnyOzone said:
In an IDEAL world, I think you are absolutely correct. I watch a fair amount of snooker and Chinese 8 ball, and almost all of those guys (the straightest shooters on the planet) lock on to the OB and their eyes NEVER leave it.
I say "ideal world" bcz how many of us have the eyesight to be able to do this. I sure as hell don't, so I have had to adapt and (somewhat) overcome. When I am 5 or more feet from the OB, I can't help but see double if I stare at the OB. Therefore, on long shots (and when CB is on the rail - for different reasons) I look at CB while delivering the stroke. It helps me make a straighter stroke, hit the CB where I intend to, be less anxious about "result" , and stay down on the shot.
When I am able to lock in on the OB the whole time, I think I shoot a little straighter.
just my 2 cents
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QTF. Had not considered the vision thing but absolutely that as well.

I would add, it's a holographic existence of at least 4 dimensions. Obvious?
Take your average, over prepared, high dollar snooker/heyball etc... player.
It's reality for them. Their egos easily encompass "being the center of the universe". Aiming and shooting is easily a given in their world. The errors, well hem haw, can't be helped, part of the sport, Ronnie and Judd have the excellence cornered yada yada...
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surely this has happened in a big match, what's the rule??

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Player takes a shot and the cue tip comes off,
can he take a time out to glue it back on??
go to his case and replace the shaft with a good one??
does the latter fall into the category of withdrawal from the match for breaking down his cue??

I have lost a tip a time or 2 in casual play, so it can happen.


Humor me, I'm an old guy just sitting around thinking about stuff.
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Toby Sweet

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Those videos are in the 90s. Early 90s we used to play almost everyday. As good as he seemed to play then, he was just a shadow of his former self. I saw him play in the 60s and you could not play better. His weakness may have been his break though.

Once he had a shot he would run out like 100 percent of the time. In my almost 80 years I never saw anyone move the cue ball better, that was his strength. I would suspect Buddy was as good and probable a little better shot maker.

Toby was fearless and could not be made to quit once you started with him. No matter who you were you knew what you were getting to when you played him. You had to play your best and any falter in your play he would get you.

Imagine playing someone like that. It is frightening. His level of play was so high no one could beat him by much more then a small percent of at all. Any of that percent disappear and they lose.
I have known him for more then 60 years and I am running out of ways to explain how good he was.
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