Shane Playing for $500 a Game, Getting the Last 2, Giving Up the Break
- By mjantti
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Impossible no. Unfeasable yes. It requires human labor on each and every match. It's just never going to happen. There is no budget (or desire) for that in pool. A ref is not feasable per table. Even a timekeeper is not feasible per table. Recording shots/innings/misses/safety attempts to calculate a TPA is more work than either of those.impossible why? it's missed shots, unsuccessful safeties, scratches..
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Just figured it out. Thank you my friend!
I'm losing faith in the FargoRate in the amateur ranks. I now agree with others that many people are entering bs leagues to keep their rating low, then do well in high entry events.
I just looked through the player list on the digital pool bracket from the $1000 entry 578 I played in last year. I went through half of the 64 players, in order of finish of the tournament, typing each player's name in the app and seeing what their fargorate is today, exactly 12 moths after the tournament. I didn't put in a spreadsheet (I might later), but by eye, the average was something like 10 points higher. I stopped half way through the list. Also a couple of the guys with got a top 3 finish got a top 3 in a later $1000 entry 599, and one of them is in a $500 entry 660 right now (today), and crushing the field thus far.
To @mikepage , I really think you need better transparency.
1: Make everyone's rating public. You mentioned before this was not default due to privacy. But the source date is already all public info. Digitalpool is all public. Cuescore in EU is all public. Challonge is all public. 12 year old weightlifting boy's records are all public (I did WL 5 years ago and the entire national system is all public). If there was someone truly stalking a pool player that entered tournaments, they would have ZERO issue finding them, even if FargoRate never existed. Hello Facebook, that's the #1 way to stalk a pool player.
2: You need to aggregate LMS results so it doesn't say 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 0-1, 0-1, and instead says 4-2. It's impossible to see what happened in the match. That can't be difficult to implement? Your own LMS app is submitting the data to the FargoRate app. Can't it recognize when the data comes from that app and aggregate it?
3: When interrogating a random player's match history, the player's opponents needs their fargorate added to their name. You created and succeeded in a system where all that matters now is "whats your FR?". It doesn't even matter what your name is anymore. Just FR. Yet you are hiding that info from the opponent list. It is visible in my OWN opponent list, but if I want to see someone else's opponent list, it is missing.
4: There has got to be some way to analyze the players to see who is dumping league matches and doing well in high entry events. People point to Solato all the time, but I'd argue it's way easier to do it in a league. Solato requires conspiracy by two players. League is just "I got drunk and was hitting on a broad and played like crap".
TD's need more tools to analyze players that are manipulating their rating. Scratch that.... EVERYONE needs more tools to do that, TD's, LO, AND other players.
yes, I understand FR is relative, and TPA is absolute. However, FR is automatically calculated. A single match, or an entire tournament performance says: "this player showed up and did way better than his normal". It's good and useful info. Because it's so easy to obtain, it is actually used. Most people I know go to the performance tab in digitalpool and see how they are doing relative to the field and their average.
TPA is about impossible to obtain. There are not 10,000 Pat's around to score every game.
Multiple people with mucho money on both sidesQuestion from a non American : how can it be so much money at stake? Bets?