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Do the best players you know have OCD or perfectionistic qualities moreso than the average person??

ShootingArts
markjames said:
somewhat on topic, i am curious about good and great players handwriting

is it more precise and legible than the average person’s handwriting

or more messy and illegible

or maybe there is no noticeable difference between a normal handwriting and one made by someone with such good hand eye coordination that they can put a cue ball anywhere they want
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It would be a good question but a much better one sixty or seventy years ago when we spent a lot of time in class learning script and had to write a lot in script. Now there is probably a strong imbalance if someone likes to play pool, script seems almost dead.

My handwriting has always been lousy, no incentive to make it better, or little incentive. I think I was a C student in all the penmanship grades. For awhile I would have rated myself a master of cue ball control not suffering from false modesty. Most of my cue ball placement came with a curse while shaking my cue stick. Three things sell a lie a lot better than one thing.

My old sometimes road partner used to holler when he shot, "Come, bruise, blister, or bleed, I ain't gonna spit no more!!" I don't know quite what that had to do with shooting pool but it would draw attention his way. He seemed like he was drunk, crazy, or both and drew action far better than my chum hanging out of my shirt pocket!

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UK Open 2026, London, May 26-31

jay helfert
My take on this match and the tournament in general. Filler at his best is in another league then anyone else. He is a full speed above just about everyone, except maybe Carlo and a few of the Chinese guys (Ko brothers). And he's the favorite over them too! He reminds me of the dominance Earl had for several years playing 9-Ball in tournaments. He broke everyone down except maybe Buddy, Sigel and Varner. And he still had a higher speed than those three.

I watched several of Filler's matches carefully. He does just about everything (kick, jump, safety, pocket) a little better than anyone else. He's like Scottie Scheffler in golf right now, always in contention to win every tournament he plays in. If he loses it's an upset. Fedor has faded for some reason.
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Dumping - caught

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jay helfert said:
Yes, same guy. Bing or something like that. I heard all about him. Supposedly better than Efren. Hollywood Billiards was downstairs in the basement of a multi story building. I don't know what all was on the upper floors. For a short period of time there was a second pool room on the ground floor. The house man (Bob) at Hollywood Billiards hustled me to play one time when I took my little daughter with me to teach her some pool. I was not a regular there, but lived not too far away. We played Eight Ball (his choice) for ten a game. When Seymour closed at about 2 AM we went upstairs and continued our game, my little daughter curled up asleep in a chair. I played this guy until about 5 AM when he finally quit. I must have beat him for 200 at ten a game. He was stubborn.

When I took my daughter back home the next day (I had visitation) she told her mom she watched me play pool all night. My ex went totally off on me for that one. I tried to tell her it wasn't my idea but the guy hustled me. I could never turn down a game!
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Somehow got it in my head you owned the place. Lol. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Dumping - caught

jay helfert
straightline said:
That would be the guy in the Grisham book?

While you're here, was Hollywood Billiards in the same building as a band rehearsal studio?
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Yes, same guy. Bing or something like that. I heard all about him. Supposedly better than Efren. Hollywood Billiards was downstairs in the basement of a multi story building. I don't know what all was on the upper floors. For a short period of time there was a second pool room on the ground floor. The house man (Bob) at Hollywood Billiards hustled me to play one time when I took my little daughter with me to teach her some pool. I was not a regular there, but lived not too far away. We played Eight Ball (his choice) for ten a game. When Seymour closed at about 2 AM we went upstairs and continued our game, my little daughter curled up asleep in a chair. I played this guy until about 5 AM when he finally quit. I must have beat him for 200 at ten a game. He was stubborn.

When I took my daughter back home the next day (I had visitation) she told her mom she watched me play pool all night. My ex went totally off on me for that one. I tried to tell her it wasn't my idea but the guy hustled me. I could never turn down a game!
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Posting about 1 foot on the floor on FB

jay helfert
Mensabum said:
Maybe on the West Coast.
That didn't fly around here.
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You lived in Straight Pool country. Out west we played 9-Ball and One Pocket, never Straight Pool, except maybe one tournament a year.
I remember in New York watching two top players play 150 points for $100 (50 each). In Los Angeles we were playing 100 a game One Pocket at the same time. Big difference!
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The 9-Ball Break

Poolmanis
Side rail break even with kitchen rule is way easier to control balls than Matchroom break box break.
Take a look how Finnish Pros break from rail. Cueball not very close to side rail. Hit is very thick cut break. Lot of outside english and one ball comes 3 rail. Casper Matikainen is very good on that break and he won men´s European Champs 2025. He is very strong player but he mastered side rail break so he basically have ball in hand position on 1-ball after break 70% of time. I got 3rd on that tournament(Edit :where video is from lol. Not Eurochamps). lost 2 times to Casper and race to 5 he ran 4 run outs in row 2 times...
Login to view embedded media Try copy that break what these 2 pros are using :)(hint for practice try get cueball same position after break than they get. Then you notice how freaking thick cutbreak they are using...)
You have to watch video on youtube site. 5:23:40 final start time..
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New Revo Shaft won’t fit Predator LE4 butt.

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So I have a predator LE4 butt that I bought in 2012. I got a brand new 30 inch Revo radial shaft for it. The shaft does not screw on at all. It gets on the first two threads and stops. Maybe 25% of the way down. My friend has a predator cue that he bought last year brand new and my shaft screws onto to that butt perfectly. I’m going to call predator in the morning, but did the things change over the years or do I have a defective shaft?
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UK Open 2026, London, May 26-31

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skogstokig said:
it also takes luck to get a shot on the 2-ball. josh got lucky in that regard with 7 BNR's, or whatever the number.

he definitely breaks hard. often made more than one ball on the break
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I think getting on the 2 is a combination of luck and skill. If you can leave your white near the centre of the table you have far more chance of getting on the 2.

Personally doing the Matchroom cut break I find it fairly easy to pot the 1 of the break when I put my cue ball towards the edge of the breaking box, but when I do that I always end up with the cue ball near the bottom right pocket and no shot on the 2.

Been putting my cue ball more central recently which solves my problem of where the cue ball ends up, but my success rate in pocketing the 9 has plummeted.
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Taking the Pocket Out of Aiming

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BilliardsAbout said:
Almost all strong players (think VERY strong) who pivot, do so in their mind's eye and then bring the cue straight down on their chosen stroke line.

I don't use CTE but on some cuts, I start by looking at ball "edges" then adjust.
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Same! I think the concept of looking for the ball edges is important, not the hidious idea of pivoting when your down on the shot.
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