Great Pool Room Stories

I love all these stories since I knew most of the players mentioned here and have been in many of the poolrooms as well. Don Willis picked his spots carefully and would play in the Ring game before all the top players showed up or were playing matches. Once the big guns started getting in (Kelly, Jersey Red, Jimmy Moore, Boston Shorty, Richie Florence, Johnny Ervolino, etc.) Willis would drop out and sit on the sidelines studying the racing form. Lassiter never played the ring games. He didn't like the idea of waiting his turn to shoot, and not getting a good shot to shoot at, which often happens.

Harry Cohen I believe was the guy referred to above. I never knew how good he played since he wouldn't play me. He liked soft action at all times, and would take his victim to a far corner table so no one would watch him. The owner of Chop Stix, and it's name sake was the greatest I ever saw at maneuvering the cue ball between two cue sticks, hence the name chopstix. They called that Chop Sticks pool and was extremely difficult to do. He never missed playing that game. The only other guy I ever saw do it nearly as well was Jimmy Caras.

Launce Saunders was hot shit around Ventura, CA in the late 1960's before moving to the Montana area. He was a young kid beating everybody around. I went up there to play him and he refused to play me One Pocket, saying we can play 9-Ball for whatever you want. A few months later after Jimmy Reid and I became friends we decided to go north on a road trip since Jimmy was new to Cali. First stop was Ventura, where we were looking for Billy Teeter, Jimmy Harris and Lance. We went to Billy's bar first but he was out of town so then we went to the poolroom and Lance was playing someone. Maybe $5 9-Ball. We sat and watched Lance win the money. After it was over Lance starts talking to me, "Hey you're the One Pocket player right?" I say yeah that's me, but I brought my nephew and he likes to play 9-Ball. He comes from a rich family too. So right away they make a game and Lance says how much you want to bet, $10 or $20 a game? Jimmy pulls a wad out of his pocket, maybe a couple of hundred dollars, and says how about a race to eleven for 100. Two hours and 200 later we are on our way to Santa Barbara next stop.

On that same trip we make it all the way north to SF and Sacramento, and Jimmy never loses a match playing local champs. Not big money but a lot of $10/20 9-Ball, $100 scores. Like that. I wouldn't let Jimmy play Denny Searcy when we saw him at Cochrans, I knew better. After a couple of weeks we have to return to SoCal because his GF Barbara needs to go back for some reason I've forgotten now. Maybe we've got close to a couple of thousand by now so I'm okay with that. So we drop off Barbara at her home in the Valley and head back to home base, Ye Billiard Den in Hollywood. Been driving all day and when we walk in I see New York Blackie practicing on the front table. I know him from my 7/11 days and Johnston City. He's a top hustler. I tell Jimmy to leave him alone, and I have to hit the restroom first. I'm taking a dump so it takes me a few minutes and when I come out Jimmy is on the table with Blackie. WTF! I'm pissed as hell. I'm afraid Jimmy is going to blow all our hard earned cash. It's too late to stop it and they are already underway in a race to eleven for 200. Jimmy has gotten in dead stroke playing every day on the road and he manages to beat Blackie 11-9 in the first set. What a relief! I say to him we quit now because Blackie is in foul mood cussing at everyone and everything. No luck, Blackie borrows some money and they play a second set. Jimmy crushes him something like 11-6 and Blackie is irate. He screams out, "Who is this fucking kid!" Now I'm loving it.

That was the beginning of the saga of Hippy Jimmy Reid. He made his bones that day and after that everyone wanted to see him play.

Great Pool Room Stories

This is a proof read story I wrote in 2024.

In the late 1960s the biggest pool tournament in Los Angeles was the straight pool or 14.1 tournament at the Elks Lodge on South Parkview Street which borders the Eastside of McAuthur Park which is now fenced off because of the homeless drug problems.

The tournament was sponsored by Fred Whalen who put up his own money because he loved the game

Fred always lost money because he would invite the best players in the country who would promise to pay their entry fee when they arrived. This was told to me by Nat Cuspert who set up the Gandy tables.

Fred let them play because their names were on the posters that were placed in most of the pool rooms in Los Angeles. Did I mention that some of the players did not pay their entry fee as promised?

I think the cost to see the tournament was $4 or $5 dollars and only $1 to watch the players in the practice room. An easy choice for me because I was going to school and making $1.80 an hour bagging groceries at a local market.

The practice room was packed and most of the people were watching a 10-Ball Ring Game.

Because I'm short and I was able to work my way to the front where I saw a really old looking guy smoking while waiting for the being racked.

After the balls were racked he set his cigarette down, broke the balls then picked up his cigarette.

While smoking he slowly walked around the table, set his cigarette down and ran out.

While I was watching I heard a voice in back of me say, "Why aren't you in the game?".

Another voice said, "I just told them I want in".

To prevent an incoming player from choosing who he will follow, the new player has to tell the table he wants to play in the next game.

This prevents the incomming player choosing to follow a player that keeps missing.

The older gentleman broke and ran out the four rack and did not make a ball on his fifth break which means he won five games in a row.

I learn later the gentleman who ran the five racks was Don Willis and the player who never shot was Lou Butera.

The only other name I remember is Ed Kelly because his picture was at the entrance of the tournament room and Ed won the straight pool tournament.
Yep and yep!

Help with opinions about O'Min, or Cueroc pool cues?

Omin makes snooker cues at affordable prices. there are no pool cues on their web site, which leads me to believe that they are rebranded cues marketed in the USA.
On Syberts it says nothing about a cored shaft, so maybe there is a new shaft out there, maybe the info is not accurate.....
I think that they are a bit overpriced and you can get cheaper cues with similar quality from brands like Players and Valhalla.

i don't know Cueroc but I'm sure it all the same story

Players and Valhalla looks like garbage to me. Probably really cheap Maple, with spray paint and overlays all over them.

The cues that I am looking at look all natural (Ebony and Bocote), and they have no Overlays.

Help with opinions about O'Min, or Cueroc pool cues?

Omin makes snooker cues at affordable prices. there are no pool cues on their web site, which leads me to believe that they are rebranded cues marketed in the USA.
On Syberts it says nothing about a cored shaft, so maybe there is a new shaft out there, maybe the info is not accurate.....
I think that they are a bit overpriced and you can get cheaper cues with similar quality from brands like Players and Valhalla.

i don't know Cueroc but I'm sure it all the same story

Solid vs layered tips

I know this subject has been beat to death but here is my personal take on it.
I have been using solid tips for many years.
Recently I decided to give a layered tip a try.
I had an Everest installed and can not tell the difference from a solid tip.
The layered tip was $40 installed vs a solid tip at $23 installed.
I'm not going to do this again.
How long have you had the tip installed and play with it?
The benefits of layered tip are that they hold shape better, mushroom less and have a better consistency in feel.
you probably won't be able to tell the difference between newly installed layered tip and a newly installed solid tip with the same hardness.
With time, the difference is more noticeable but since we get used to things, you'll be able to noticed it more if you had two shafts with the two tips and you get to use them both over the same period of time.
Bottom line, layered tip needs less maintenance. It's not about the feel that much.

Solid vs layered tips

I know this subject has been beat to death but here is my personal take on it.
I have been using solid tips for many years.
Recently I decided to give a layered tip a try.
I had an Everest installed and can not tell the difference from a solid tip.
The layered tip was $40 installed vs a solid tip at $23 installed.
I'm not going to do this again.
Just wait till it glazes over. They're worse than solid-leather tips, at twice the price!

Cognoscenti laminated cues vs regular Cogs. Same or?

Wondering what everyone’s thoughts are on the laminated cogs vs the regular in hit and playability etc. Just acquired one and haven’t played with it yet and wondering others thoughts, read a couple people’s old replies from some post I seen that they said they was awesome and played as good or better than their others. Just never had one and won’t be able to play with it for a few days to see if I’m happy or selling it 🤷‍♂️😂. If a cue is still available I’m after I’ll probably sell regardless but hey that’s what we do isn’t it 🤡

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