MattPoland said:

From my optics you’re sponsoring a player that says they can’t afford to get to events. And you’d want them to be seen out there using your equipment. And Billy’s brand merits are very tied to Mosconi Cup. Heck even if he went to Yuma, could he also afford to go to the Philippines Open? As a two way street it he’s staying home, what value is he to them and them to him? Doesn’t increase my outlook on them as a brand.

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Again, the best way for them to handle it is to specify participation requirements in his sponsorship contract, not to micromanage his event schedule.

sjm said:

Strongly disagree here. Sponsors give a name player a fixed sum and usually a certain amount of product which they can sell. They do not give them tournament participation costs.

Other than the matter of future contract negotiations with their sponsor, a player's participation decision, tournament by tournament, is an independent financial decision. That said, if a clause in his Meucci contract requires a pre-specified level of WNT participation, which is unlikely, then there is a possible breach of contract.

So no, it is not a sponsor's obligation to either pay a player's tournament participation costs or to monitor things like eligibility for invitational events. It is their option to do so if they are so inclined, but Meucii doesn't look bad here on any level.

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From my optics you’re sponsoring a player that says they can’t afford to get to events. And you’d want them to be seen out there using your equipment. And Billy’s brand merits are very tied to Mosconi Cup. Heck even if he went to Yuma, could he also afford to go to the Philippines Open? As a two way street it he’s staying home, what value is he to them and them to him? Doesn’t increase my outlook on them as a brand.

jay helfert said:

I've had two of his big pin cues. Best hitting wood cue ever imo. Valued in the 500 range. A bargain.

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I thought that huge wooden pin cues looked so cool. Never seen anything else like them in the past.

My 2 cents!

At the end of a 'Year/Season' the Very Top Pool player's ernings are most likely higher than The Very Top 3C players!

But, Year to year the 3C players have a More stable arrangement!

AI Overview



Top three-cushion billiards players generally have more stable, organized corporate sponsorships and higher baseline earnings from federations and Asian markets than most pocket pool players. [1, 2]

Three-Cushion Sponsorships

• • Stronger Corporate and Regional Backing: Three-cushion is massively popular in South Korea, Turkey, and parts of Western Europe. In South Korea especially, professional billiards is heavily supported by corporate conglomerates, dedicated TV/streaming networks (like SOOP/AfrecaTV), and prominent brands (such as Molinari, Longoni, and various Korean cue and table makers) that offer elite players predictable salaries and contracts. [1, 2, 3]
  • Centralized Organization: The Union Mondiale de Billard (UMB) and professional circuits provide a more structured tier of international events, making it easier for top-ranked carom players to secure long-term brand alignment. [1]

Pool Player Sponsorships

• • Fewer Guaranteed Salaries: Outside of a tiny handful of elite international stars (like Shane Van Boening or historical top earners), most professional pool players struggle to find full-time salaried sponsors. [1, 2]
  • Equipment-Heavy Deals: The majority of pool sponsorships consist of free or discounted gear (cues, cases, and chalk) rather than substantial cash stipends or salary support, forcing players to rely heavily on tournament winnings, coaching, or action gambling.

Chris said:

R. Givens' The Eight Ball Bible places much emphasis on the nuances of playing with the heavier cue ball of coin-op bar tables.

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It tends to build oomph in your stroke.

there are a small handful that make a decent living. really a poor one for being at the top of a sport.

and all the rest if lucky and good, make about what a cop in a city makes or a bus driver with overtime.

and those lower just support those on top and the venues. till they realize what their future is.

sjm said:

Strongly disagree here. Sponsors give a name player a fixed sum and usually a certain amount of product which they can sell. They do not give them tournament participation costs.

Other than the matter of future contract negotiations with their sponsor, a player's participation decision, tournament by tournament, is an independent financial decision. That said, if a clause in his Meucci contract requires a pre-specified level of WNT participation, which is unlikely, then there is a possible breach of contract.

So no, it is not a sponsor's obligation to either pay a player's tournament participation costs or to monitor things like eligibility for invitational events. It is their option to do so if they are so inclined, but Meucii doesn't look bad here on any level.

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May not be their obligation but pretty stupid not to get their player out there.

Lou Figueroa

brilliance said:

Did anybody at Expo try these carbon fiber shafts 12.5mm:

• BeCue Prime II
• Viking Siege
• JFlowers S.M.O

If so what is your opinion?

If you own any of these please post feedback, thanks!

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I have been playing Becue for the last4 years, Becue builds shafts differently than any manufacturer I know of, instead of continuously building the new "best" shaft ever, they build different shafts for different types of hit, the first Prime shaft is very Muecci like, some consider it "whippy" I think it is very wood like shaft, the Engage shaft is a pure CF hit, very little if any feedback, if you like the majority of the well known shafts you will like the hit of this shaft, the Prime II is my favorite shaft, to me it has the best balance of feedback and CF hit, they all have LD and play great, the best shaft is the one that feels the best to you, Becue said it best, not everyone would like how one cue hits, they have taken the challenge to build cues that have several great hitting styles of cues and shafts

Tennesseejoe said:

Thanks for sharing this post. This puts it in perspective for me, but I have a question. For a person with 8-10 inch bridge, would you suggest a regular shaft or a LD?

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I don't care for LD shafts as such but I am curious as to why one would shoot everything with the same "focal" length. Shots have too much range to confine yourself like that.

Bob Jewett said:

What are you going to do with the cue ball?

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Back and forth it, avoid the side pockets, done. You can even play the leave since misses will leave similar object ball landings - 'sept for the timed accident.

The pool gods have been against me since I took up this sport/hobby years ago.

If I had a dollar for every time being out of position by one inch cost me a runout I could go ahead and buy that Gold Crown VII.

r/DCP

Cmate said:

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Ok now are we actively searching for the most oft' posted things to repost? lol.