garczar said:

they aren't still made are they? thought they quit making tables yrs ago.

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I know the owner of Rebco. He lives in Fresno and his warehouse is still here. It is filled with collectible pool tables that includes some 6 leg tables. Bob had brain surgery a year ago and his health status has been precarious but he is still with us thankfully. Bob is a character that stands tall in pool lore, right along with Dan Dadian who brought professional pool players that were his friends to play in Fresno. Rebco tables are very good tables but not equivalent to Rasson, Diamond or Brunswick 7’ tables. I am surprised no one mentioned 7’ Brunswick tables. I played on one last summer over a weekend and the table quality was amazing. And price competitive with Diamond tables too so I’d go with a 7’ Brunswick pool table with 4.5” pockets and Simonis cloth. The pocket size is what Diamond tables and most tournaments use.

maha said:

take all luck out and then you can just award the winning prizes to the highest rated fargo players on down the line. as that is exactly what you are offering to do.

the more luck you add, the more exciting the game gets and more likely the less skilled player can win sometimes. i said sometimes.

and the more fun watching the games.

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Fair point. I think call shot/call foul 10 ball has its place if you’re looking for a more competitive experience with another serious player.

However, 9 ball would be a better fit for a more exciting, fun and “relaxed” game - and more suited for spectators.

There’s not a one size fits all game for everyone and every situation. I do like how call shot/call foul lends itself to rewarding the more precise player (even if it is more boring to watch and isn’t doing any favors for expanding billiards to the masses).

JasonATX said:

I might have a new hobby now. There are a couple lesser-known auction sites I can do this on.

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Trust me, there is no such thing as "lesser known" auction site everyone already knows about Hi-Bid, AuctionNinja, Proxbid, LiveAuction, and CTbids.

But if you mean outside of those, please do share!

Benelli said:

My favorite hobby is going on there and dropping a mid to high bid on a cue. Just to make sure there is a painful floor for any potential buyer.

Not so high that I'm not willing to pay, but enough to make sure any flipper is going to have a hard time getting their money back.

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I might have a new hobby now. There are a couple lesser-known auction sites I can do this on.

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Lowell said:

The Fargo 560s I've seen B&R on Valleys maybe once every 10 to 15 racks.

That is not pro level, but definitely serious.

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so much of it comes down to the break- if there is a lot of congestion, it is obviously much harder to run out

Lowell said:

My friend who is way better than me told me I should stop raising my shoulder in my shooting position, and it seemed like good advice.

I have a tendency to chicken wing, which I'm trying to get rid of. It seems that a relaxed shoulder makes me have a straighter elbow, but I have two doubts related to doing this.

One is that it makes it harder for me to get my chin on or very close to the cue (a good habit that I was previously able to do with ease), and two is that it seems most very good players have their elbow up high. Which seems like it would be hard to do without a raised shoulder.

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From your description, it seems the raised shoulder is bringing the cue up to your chin. This would elevate the butt of your cue unnecessarily. Hence the better players advice. Don’t purposefully raise, lower, contort anything. Stance needs to be natural, neutral, comfortable, repeatable. There are a bunch of videos on this. A good one is Hunter Lombardo giving a lesson to a guy named Rollie. Keep your cue close to level. How close your chin gets just depends on physical traits.