jimmyco said:

Amazon.com

This is full retail. Knife makers and cue builders have better sources.

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This is about what I thought. If it costs $5 dollars for the abalone then it probably cost .50 cents for the equivalent epoxy.

I think my point didn't come across correctly. I felt natural inlay cue butts would naturally have a mark up. So I was asking what the price point was. Products turned into luxury products doesn't really translate into price + cost of luxurious materials. Which is negligible increase in material cost, still the cost goes up 10 fold. So if I bought an inlay cue I think i would expect pay at least $200 dollars more even though the abalone only costed an extra 5 dollars.

Cartier charges at least 10x more per gram of gold in there products. Why anyone buys it when they can get the same amount of gold from Kay's for 10x cheaper? Is it the name, or craftsmanship and design? Is it so different with pool sticks?

So maybe Joss is the Cartier of Pool cues.
And Maybe Players and Action are the Kay Jewelers. I wonder if they have real inlays in their butts...

Benelli said:

So I'm weird, I don't like to take photos of makers cues that I'm not buying. It feels like something someone would do to rip off their designs instead of just buying the cue.

Now vintage and used cues I'll snag photos of, but not new stuff.

Here are some pics of that new PK I picked up.

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This one is just perfect, exactly my style

Cue Alchemist said:

Sorry thats what i meant, clash steel.your definitely right on the tournament tables. This is what i read:
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This is what 4 1/4” CP look like and that what I play on 80% of the time. The other 20% is 4 1/2” CP on 7’ & 9’ tables.
IMO, the pockets think the CP look like 4 1/8” but without placing the OBs side by side it is hard to distinguish size.

mikepage said:

Fargo Ratings don't in a sense "react" to the difficulty of the equipment the way you are thinking. The balance between US and European ratings is determined by the aggregate of what happens when US players play European players. This includes situations in which the US and European players are on easy equipment and other situations in which they are on hard equipment. Importantly, though, the two players in each game are always on the SAME equipment.

Whether practicing or competing on easier equipment is good or bad for player development is a different question, and a nuanced one.

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What about a player that only plays in the US on easy tables and not facing that many European players?
I’m sure that most of the 700 and under players probably fit here.

Rick , check out Thermacell mosquito repellent it's A God send and they make one that clips onto your belt or can sit on a picnic table .

Patrick , in a very few places beaver can be helpful , in others they can be destructive and dangerous to livestock because of the dams they build livestock can walk out onto the ice wanting to get a drink and fall through the ice and become bogged down and die or even drown .
Then if not found the dead cow in turn can in a sense poison the water and any other livestock can contract black leg .

One rancher I knew well planted 450 golden willow trees along the creek on their ranch at a great expense , the beaver moved in and wiped them all out within a few nights leaving punji sticks up and down the creek which in turn not only flattened 4 wheel tires but became a nuisance in general .

Not to mention flooding roads and low lying property .

Imagine telling someone in 1999 (let alone 1979 or 1959) that 4.5-inch pockets were "buckets."

straightline said:

I'm into the precision. Buckets are uninspiring and not even fun to shoot at. Running the ball like a wizard is another detriment.

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I don’t want buckets but I don’t want this extreme either

u12armresl said:

Ultimate pool is garbage. Slop counts, don't have to call the 8 ball, any pocket is fine, ratings that flux more than any other league.

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Yeah if possible it seems worse than the APA. Slop on the 8 Ball is ridiculous.

<resurrecting an old thread here>

I am looking at one of these for sale and it is nice to hear that there is some kind of (not very well documented) gauge on the edge cutter. Unfortunately, it also looks like the standard cutter diameter is only adjustable from 12.75mm to 13.5mm which is probably the one that the seller got (still waiting to hear back from him). I play with a 12.5mm on all my maple shafts except for my breaker which is a 13mm, so unfortunately, I would have to purchase the smaller one from Mueller's for $70 plus tax and shipping.

Thanks for another informative thread AZB!