Arrowslinger148 said:

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

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i replaced my Monarch Superspeeds on my GCI with Artemis, had the subrails done too, if I didnt tighten up the pockets I would have kept the Monarchs on it, they were still good. If I were doing my table right now I think I would put Superspeeds on it, I don't believe there is any advantage to Artemis, its just what everyone was using when I did my table. Monkey see monkey do.

trob said:

I never measured but I would say my p3 definitely feels thinner then my sp or roadlines.

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I think the exact opposite. I believe my P3 is slightly thicker than my SP. Now I got to measure.

dendweller said:

This was one of the 8 pointers from a while ago, not sure it was in the Roadline model so you may want to check.

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Thanks, this one is an 8 pointer too.

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

Frosty said:

Playing with no chance to win is nothing more than donation and I don’t quite understand why anyone would be interested in that. Now if he wants to play some Banks and give me 5-4 as well as giving me 3 to 1 odds on the money I could be persuaded to get in the box.

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I agree. He's not really "looking for action". He's looking for donations while he practices. I'd respect him more if he posted something like "if I don't know you, I'll give up the 7 and 8 in 9 ball or 10-6 in one pocket". Then, at least a decent shortstop would have a fighting chance. He'd probably even enjoy it more if he was pushed / pressured a little.

If he gave me a spot I think I could be competitive with, I'd enjoy playing one of the best players ever and wouldn't be upset about losing a few hundred for the experience. I wouldn't enjoy donating knowing I had no chance and feeling like a complete nut hugger though.

Very likely you've got some dead spots. First, are you certain your table is a Gold Crown II? There's lots of misinformation out there. It is more than likely a Gold Crown I as the GCII was only offered from '74-'76. Either way, the subrail bevel will need to be adjusted to accept modern K55 profile cushions to retain a true 2:1 ratio (50"x100") playing surface. Having had Artemis on a previous table, I'm not sure the extra cost is worth it. I went with Diamond Black cushions on my Gold Crown I and love the way they play.

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I also have this Gator print Whitten & a BRAND NEW J.B.RUGGED 1x2 with 2 pockets & side handle very sporty looking case (Black out & Blue inside)

Material density is also an issue when it comes to cushion play. Having a foreign material at the ends of the rails/at the pockets will impact playability. Durability, as others have mentioned, could come into play as well.

The Black Ostrich & Chocolate 1x2 are not for sale nor the 1x1 Black

Thank you so much, Sudocrushms.

I must confess, sir, that I had in mind a coffee table book that mainly focused on beautiful photographs, with the text just describing a bit about the ball sets’ history.

Phretless, a regular contributor to this thread, has written two excellent books on the subject of obscure games and their rules, dear chap. Hopefully he might chime in later and tell you a bit more.

Best wishes, and thank you again.