iusedtoberich said:

Just thinking out loud...

The pro women today seem to play much better as a whole than the pro women of the 90's. When you watch those old matches, a lot of those women tried to have perfect pinned elbow pendulum strokes.

The women of today have much more piston strokes, like the men do.

Maybe that is one contributing factor to their improved play.

I remember watching Pam Treadway come up in the late 90's/early 2000's in the Philly area. Her stroke was "like a man's" and she dominated for about 10 years every regional event she entered. The other women had a dink stroke with a locked elbow.

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I started watching the ladies in between Jean and Dottie and the modern players, when the woman's tour was just getting going. The evening gowns were a nice distraction. The pool was painful for the most part. While there were about a half-dozen fairly capable players if you bet Allison and Jeanette would be in the final before the event started you would win a lot more than you lost. A few more foreigners started making things interesting on the table but it was a long grind getting enough decent players to look like a tour.

Hu

Just thinking out loud...

The pro women today seem to play much better as a whole than the pro women of the 90's. When you watch those old matches, a lot of those women tried to have perfect pinned elbow pendulum strokes. I think its because the women at that time had coaches preaching the pendulum stroke, whereas most of the men were too proud, and developed naturally.

The women of today have much more piston strokes, like the men do.

Maybe that is one contributing factor to their improved play.

I remember watching Pam Treadway come up in the late 90's/early 2000's in the Philly area. Her stroke was "like a man's" and she dominated for about 10 years every regional event she entered. The other women had a dink stroke with a locked elbow.

A pendulum can work well if you can get very low. When age or injury forces a higher stance it becomes impossible to "lock" a shoulder since it can't be locked anyway. Soft tissue at maximum extension can make it feel locked to some degree. As soon as you can't get maximum extension on the soft tissue, no more shoulder "lock".

I have never liked a pendulum because it is an unnatural movement that is very rarely used except when shooting pool. A full arm movement is used every time we walk.

Hu

Tried this out in the pool hall and it was well received. Everyone liked it so far. The beeps are not annoying at all, compared to how echoey they were in my garage.

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He's a good player. The last good one to come out of Philly. I think he's about 25 now and lives in Mississippi. I knew him well when he was coming up in Philly around age 14. His dad is real good too.