Jesse Cool said:

I wouldn’t use basketball, darts, or any other sports that don’t involve striking a ball or target with a type of club for comparison. I’m specifically speaking of sports that use a club to strike a ball.

With Darts, basketball, etc you already have the object in your hand and you’re not using another object to strike it. The target focus is completely different which separates it from sports that require striking an object.

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To send an object to a distance with pinpoint accuracy we must focus on the target. in pool I think the target is the object ball. We can accurately strike a cue ball eyes closed if we line up on it eyes open. Not so when golfing or batting, you need pinpoint accuracy for the ball strike but are satisfied with a general area for the ball target. I guess you have to decide which is the target, tip to cue ball contact or object ball cue ball contact. I dunno, it just seems to me that your focus has to be on what is the key part of the activity, in pool for me the key part is the object ball contact, I think there is enough footage of the guys that earn a living at this game to conclude they do the same. For me and golf I am happy to put the ball somewhere green and in front of me.

Sooner32 said:

Well I am not good enough to win a tournament but this thread is full of ideas to get me in the money.

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proceed with caution.....and keep the car running in the alley.

bbb said:

If you are not perfectly aligned looking only at the Cue ball Last
You do not allow your subconscious to make micro corrections to deliver the cueball to the Target
like you could if you were focusing on the object ball contact point or whatever target last
Jmho

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That's just reversing the polarity of the method. The positives to negatives.

fastone371 said:

Right, that's why they look at OBL. I think you can even see video of Shaw looking at OBL.

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This means little in the way of dismissing CBL. I look at the OB too if I have no other concerns.

bbb said:

Read post #8 again

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lol I like you but you get so thick sometimes.

bbb said:

If you are not perfectly aligned looking only at the Cue ball Last
You do not allow your subconscious to make micro corrections to deliver the cueball to the Target
like you could if you were focusing on the object ball contact point or whatever target last
Jmho

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This definitely has merit and I would agree. The brain can make some really fast subconscious adjustments and send lightning fast signals to the nervous system.

fastone371 said:

Right, that's why they look at OBL. I think you can even see video of Shaw looking at OBL.

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It’s very hard to make accurate predictions by watching videos. I’ve tried to study this a little and camera lenses do all kinds of funny things that distort perception. Really difficult to tell what they are really looking at.

Would be interesting to pick some of these top pros brains and get intimate details of what they do with their eyes over a number of different shot situations.

If you are not perfectly aligned looking only at the Cue ball Last
You do not allow your subconscious to make micro corrections to deliver the cueball to the Target
like you could if you were focusing on the object ball contact point or whatever target last
Jmho

Magictrat007 said:

I have my own personal opinion about this. I think everybody is looking at both. Or at least most people. I mean you’re looking at the object ball past the cube ball. Some people may be focusing more on one than the other, but you’re still looking at both.

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And they will shoot some personally biased average of both. With CPG CBL, you can determine the shot alignments first then look at the cueball as you shoot it. The shot dynamics you already know.

straightline said:

They (the top 5 say) have super strokes and way more headroom than most - including their food. They can look at anything they want and still stroke accurately besides. Shaw managed what 800 balls in one pass (dust fouls aren't misses) CBL.



What then, are you saying?

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Right, that's why they look at OBL. I think you can even see video of Shaw looking at OBL.

straightline said:

What then, are you saying?

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Read post #8 again