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Kjackxon said:
I had a follow up question to the “push” ball encounter.
Is it likely that the cue tip, moving in an upward motion after the hit, can brush the cue ball a second time?
I constantly tell myself to keep the tip on the same plane, especially if I’m trying to draw or follow.
I hate to call that kind of stuff, but it irks me.
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Dr. Dave established that it does in fact happen and will leave a strobed trail of chalk marks.
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Thought patterns ...

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lfigueroa said:
BTW, not everyone has an "inner voice" or the same level of interaction with an inner voice.

www.scientificamerican.com

Not Everyone Has an Inner Voice Streaming through Their Head

The extent to which people experience “inner speech” varies greatly, and the differences matter for performing certain cognitive tasks
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Lou Figueroa
inner voice talks too much
(who you talkin' about?)
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Not everyone has one that knows what it's talking about either. I'm guessing normal would be language based - native tongue(s) etc. I think in English and probably adhere to grammatical logic as well.
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China Open

Flakeandrun
skogstokig said:
well that's good. overall the production has been subpar, no commentary, choppy streams
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They don’t see the point in footing the bill for commentary, and I assume that’s because there’s many thousands of people who just watch their favourite streamer commentate on it via. Douyin

Really costs cut from every corner this year.
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using psychological warfare against opponent

Cuebuddy
measureman said:
Once or twice a week I play one pocket against the same guy, he is a beast to beat.
But sometimes when he is losing, he will go off that the table is off, the pocket is defective, yesterday I played very well and he made comments about how did I get in stroke,etc on and on.
So almost every time he went on a rant I went outside and had a smoke to give him more time to dwell on whatever he was complaining about.
We are two old guys in our '70's that pass the time at $5 a game, nothing to get upset about.
So anyway, I came out 8 games ahead and he said put it on the wire for next time, if there is one.
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Well if he quits you for good, text me. I will try and get down to the room you are now playing at and keep you in stroke. :cool:
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AJ Manas

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Frosty said:
He owns beach front property in Shaws head at this point. He’s just blasted him in several recent events.
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To me Shaws his own ''worst'' enemy.
Here's a man in his past/youth... that has easily shown me, until the last rack is in the bag, you were never safe.
He was easily a Filler and better, had another gear.... till he started ''filling out''.
I look at Jason differently than most pro pool players (I look at his life and some of his match conflicts, from my narrow perspective and saw his taste in money is seemingly more important than fair play/SAD.
I did sadly lose my interest after seeing that this past yr.
Very Few great 9 ballers.... ever raised a family and played top end, this guy has it. Tough Road
But all I see is him livin' off the fat and slackin' in his prime.
He's outta shape and could easily play a ball better, his game is not as good as is was, and could of been easily two balls better than his level now.
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boogieman said:
I'm not highly accomplished, but:

1a. Seeing/feeling that I am hitting the target exactly where I want to (and had already decided before addressing the shot) aka mind already made up and just executing the shot I decided, be it correct, incorrect, or unknown (carefully observe what happens). AKA does it look/feel correct. When it does I simply shoot.
1b. Less thinking, simply does it look correct or not? If the answer is not then get back up and try again until it looks right. This method, like anything else takes practice. You might have to diagnose how you see shots at the practice table. Keep your head on a level plane and it is easier to avoid optical illusions.

2a. Ideally, nothing. Just awaiting the sweet feel and sound of the hit. At this point, thinking for me is self sabotage. Best to not think, just focus on your other senses, like sight, sound, feel. If I think about anything it's "sweet hit."
2b. Nothing. Focus on your senses and not your thoughts. Easier said than done, might take practice. Just feel and anticipate the feel and sound of a sweetly hit ball. The rest will take care of itself. If the rest doesn't take care of itself, remember or make a quick note of that shot and spend some time working on it during practice.


Me too. Focusing and thinking are different things. I find if I focus on the feel/sound my "thinking" isn't so forward in my mind. I have ADD so the tricks I have to do to keep focus may not work for everyone. Alan Watts had some line about constant thinking to the point of it being chatter in the skull is not useful. Maybe focus on your breathing.

Basically if I don't FOCUS on something, my brain is chattering away, and sometimes in life's endeavors that's helpful but sometimes it self sabotages.

I highly recommend adding something to your PSR while up and deciding. Like decide what to do, then say to yourself, is this correct? If you answer yes, just think "yes, correct" and then just focus on feel. Don't address the ball/get into stance until you say "yes, correct." The thinking is done and you confirmed it was correct. Don't be afraid to walk around the table for a different look or just to burn off some energy if you get to thinking. It's annoying but if your brain learns that thinking only gets it a trip around the table, eventually it will decide it's easier to shut up while you focus on feel/sound of a good hit.
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This topic has made me think about some other causes that I have never considered, we have been talking about the conscious brain wanting to make the decisions, what about times it relies on the subconscious part of the brain like when driving a car at 70 mph in heavy traffic? You don't think about, braking, steering to change lanes, how much pressure to put on the accelerator, and many other things, through your learned experience your conscious brain allows the subconscious brain to do all those things without interference, your conscious brain is concentrating on and predicting what moves to make up ahead and expects the subconscious brain to do what it knows how to do, so why doesn't it happen when you play pool? You don't have to make all those snap decisions, the conscious brain believes it can control this because it's slower and risk of losing your life is non existent, it's right in one case, loss of life is probably not going to happen, but it's not slower, that is where the problem lies, it's actually way faster, you can the exact figures from Dr. Dave but the tip of the cue stays on the cueball for about 1/100,000 of 1 second, your whole shot relies on you having your cue in the PERFECT spot when you make contact with your tip AND it has to be on the near perfect line for you to pocket the object ball, and that will depend on how far the object ball is from the pocket and how far you are off from hitting the target on the cueball, rattling the object ball means you were close, I don't believe you can trick the conscious brain into believing there is danger in not stroking the ball correctly, maybe if you allowed some to punch you in the face hard every time you missed, probably not what I would try, the best thing is to learn to allow your subconscious brain to take over when stroking the cueball, is there one way that works for everyone? Nope, I wish there was a magic bullet, too many brains wired too many ways, but at least you can work on it and find what works for you, I am studying how the brain learns things, will add more when I can, I thank everyone who contributes to this thread, I'm learning too, I want to be the best pool player I can be.
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