Out of all the newer builders in last 10 years, these guys are my current fav makers. Tell you what there #1 faucet in all categories in building a cue! That cue is a beauty!

Twist that bank in cross side and hold your cue ball right there. Easy peasy!

Drop them in a bowl of water.
The ones that float are no good.
The ones that sink are the good ones.

Chopdoc said:

Kao Kao. 98.639% sure.

Similar to Lishan and Ada Chi (Adachi).

Many of these for sale on eBay in the last few years. Some very nice.

If you search their B2B catalog you might find it...or not...and there are something like 1,200 cues in that catalog.

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I couldn't find the exact model here, but you've pointed me in the right direction. Thank you so much!

sjm said:

Whether you're staying there or not, you may want to eat at the Gordon Ramsay Steakhouse at Caesar's, the one solid restaurant in a hotel where the food choices are not very good. Getting reservations there can be quite difficult and you must move quickly to get them. Some of the Derby dates are now bookable using the Open Table app. If you want a reservation, I wouldn't wait at all as you may find yourself unable to get a reservation there later on.

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Expect to pay something over $100 for dinner at Gordon Ramsay''s. The menu is available on-line here:


I can recommend the Exchange Pub, about the closest good restaurant in New Albany -- a 15-minute drive. Steak and fries is $32, fish and chips is $18.

I think any serious player needs to go to Derby City at least once. There are ways to make it less expensive. It really helps to have a car.

that gets the big guys to show up and of course the little guys get little or nothing anyway. they are there to just pay to play in it, and usually don't expect to win anything so they get what they want.

not fair, or course not fair. so if smart go but dont donate. play someone on the side for that money where you can have the best of the bet.
and double or even much more your money by only beating one person.

dhansen said:

Ricky Carranco is also on the schedule for the PPPQ

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For those who are puzzled by PPPQ, that's the first round of play and is the 48 lowest-ranked players who have entered. (PPPQ stands for pre-pre-pre-qualification) They play in 16 groups of three and the best player in each group advances to PPQ.

The 32 next highest-ranked entries now enter PPQ, joining the winners from PPPQ, forming another 16 groups of three. The highest in each group advances to PQ.

In PQ, 32 more higher ranked players join the 16 from PPQ and they produce 16 winners who advance to Q -- the Qualification Round.

In the qualification round, the 16 from PQ join only 20 new, ranked players to form 12 groups of three. The 12 winners advance to the first round of the main tournament where they are joined by the 20 top seeds for a 32-man tournament

PPPQ 48 -> 16
PPQ 16+32 -> 16
PQ 16+32 -> 16
Q 16+20 -> 12
12+20 = main tournament

Sooo... a PPPQ player has to win 4 3-man round robins to get into the main event.

In the Qualification round, you have players like Blomdahl, Forthomme, Polychronopoulos, and Peter Ceulemans.

This format allows lower-level players to get tournament experience. As I count it, there are 152 players entered.