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Judd vs Ding at 3-2 going to 5.
The lessons are there.
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Rickhem said:

Here is the team manual, which includes the game rules for both 8 ball and 9 ball:

https://media.poolplayers.com/TMRB/Team-Manual-English.pdf

Go to the bottom of Page 65, where it explains how to score for 9 ball. There, you will find this:

• Dead Balls: Record any balls not credited to either player (singles) or team (doubles), such as ball(s) made during a scratch, ball(s) made during a foul, or on the table when the 9-ball is made or a stalemate occurs. The 9-ball is never a dead ball. It is spotted.

The bold and italic are added by me, for emphasis.

I'm assuming that you understand the above is based upon the rule that altering the path of a moving cue ball is a foul, which you did acknowledge. The commission of a foul during the shot makes that pocketed ball a dead ball, and ball-in-hand for the opponent.

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Absolutely what I was after. Thank you!

skor said:

What is a dead ball?

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APA 9-Ball is a points game--2 points for the 9, and 1 point for each of the others. A "dead" ball is one that is not scored for either player.

For example, if you break and sink a single ball you get 1 point, but if you scratch as well, then the potted ball is considered "dead" and no point awarded. If you happen to sink several and scratch, then all of them are dead.

My issue, was that I could not find an APA rule that specified that a ball would be dead in the case of a non-scratch foul--which I guess is really is a question of whether there is actually a difference in a scratch foul and a non-scratch foul....

Dorothy was involved in the original California Billiards in San Jose. It was one of the best pool halls in the US at the time.

Where is the Cue made from sir ?

Have some but looking more to sell.

OverTheNut said:

Lots of drama queens on here.

The USA team are all world class players. Numerous major titles between them. They aren't a bunch of randoms from some bar.

Play the Mosconi every week until a team wins 50 times. I bet both teams would get 40+ wins.

As enjoyable as it is seeing the Kansas City Chiefs (probably) not make the NFL playoffs this season - then (sadly) that doesn't mean that they're now a bad team. Just things haven't broken well for them this season. Just like USA have missed a few key balls. That's the difference.

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please list the major titles between team USA

Bigdaddi44 said:

I play n a APA league. We won or division and are eligible to go to Vegas for the championships. My operator however tells us that in order to get the registrations sent by him, we have to sign up for the next session. Is this something that anyone else has experience with this? I think if we them team and players have paid the dues, won the playoffs and qualified for the tournament; we should'nt have to play the next session if we don't want to. To me its like buying a beer and telling I can't drink until I buy the next one first.

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What you probably did was to qualify for the "Vegas Qualifier", or "World Qualifier" which happens once each year prior to the Team Championships each August in Las Vegas. You probably won the Tri-Cup, or Tri-annual, whatever it's called in your area. And just as you, and the other players on your team, had to achieve a specific number of matches to be eligible for playoffs, including the Tri-Cup, and including the Vegas Qualifier, you need to be on an active roster to qualify for play in any tournaments based upon league play.

APA Operator said:

First of all, nobody, anywhere, is qualified for the 2026 World Pool Championships in Vegas. I suggest you read about World Qualifiers and qualified teams in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws, both available from your Pool League app. There are also ways to lose qualification - remember, forewarned is forearmed.


Except a beer doesn't have a skill level. Qualified teams are required to remain active so your League Operator can keep an eye on your skill levels. Otherwise, you could all quit playing in the league, take lessons for five months, and show up at the World Qualifier with skill levels that are way too low. Again, I suggest reading all about it in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws.

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Please read, and re-read the above. It's on you, and/or your team captain, to be aware of the rules, and abide by them. This includes whatever local by-laws exist for your league. These rules and by-laws are available to you, and your team members, so read and understand them. Game rules are detailed, but most end up earning about a rule after being burned by it. The Team Manual is available here:
Get familiar with the sections preceding the game rules too. It'll only help you.

trob said:

Apa is a business

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When I'm asked for the logic behind some rules or requirements, this is my standard answer. It's the same for all the other leagues to one extent or another. The business model is genius when you view it from that perspective, and they truly do enforce the rules at the higher level competitions, even if your local league matches don't. The benefit of qualifying for the higher level, or advanced tournaments, along with the things that go along with those qualifications, also require your continued participation. They are not "open" tournaments.

OverTheNut said:

Lots of drama queens on here.

The USA team are all world class players. Numerous major titles between them. They aren't a bunch of randoms from some bar.

Play the Mosconi every week until a team wins 50 times. I bet both teams would get 40+ wins.

As enjoyable as it is seeing the Kansas City Chiefs (probably) not make the NFL playoffs this season - then (sadly) that doesn't mean that they're now a bad team. Just things haven't broken well for them this season. Just like USA have missed a few key balls. That's the difference.

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The goal is always to make the least errors.

mnorwood said:

I have always been a workaholic and devoted family man. However, I have had a job change where my stress level is gratefy reduced and my kids are grown now. Incidentally my wife loves the fact that I’m chasing a life goal of a 100 ball run. I turn 50 in April but in good shape physically. I have been turning more of my focus in on straight pool. For many years my high run was 55, last year I ran a 67 and the other day I hit 75. Runs in the 30s are more frequent now. I feel a 100, I feel it more now than ever. I picked up a wall mount for my camera and hope to catch it on camera. I just need to get hard with my discipline in correct practice and he honest with myself with what I need to work on.

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To me, getting to 100 for the first time requires top notch equipment. When I had my new table installed I had new cloth and new balls. I ran an 82 in no time and had numerous runs in the 50 -70 range. Years later with the cloth a bit worn and the balls not racking perfectly, I'm like a different player. I haven't been playing much but when I do hitting 50 seems like a dream. I did run a 30 something the other day but I'm playing like one hour per week. Basically, my skill level is quite a bit higher now but I can't run the same numbers because of the conditions. I think a true 100 ball runner can do it on just about any table.

Rackaday said:

Do you have evidence of people under 30 wanting and waiting for an opportunity to scoop up even a 3-5k cue?

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No, and that was my point. Most people in their teens, through 30’s are busy with school, starting careers and families, etc. Discretionary income is tight. It sure was for me.