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KINGSCOURT905 said:

... I was adding a touch above centre on those kicks because I thought it would help the cue ball run cleaner ...

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Hitting above center does help the cue ball "run cleaner". It also makes the speed control easier.

I tried that many years ago on my table, when I saw the huge clusters after the break all of the fun went away.

If you are consistently making balls and doing what you intended to do, you are doing it correctly for "yourself".

Everyone seems to think there is only one way of doing things.

Zhero said:

what game?
for 9b i switch sides with my cut break.
for 8b i'd probably try the 2nd ball break once in a while.

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Ah the power break in 8 ball on a bar box figured to spread them wide, a ball made leaves a conect the dots out. I gotta lean to precision....now. Don't mean I can't come with the Power. Once a night.
When In the zone, there's no counting. Period. When done they tell me it was a break and run. just 1 game and I need a bunch more as my opponent can do the same. uh oh Gramps is wandering. But it was a close battle....and son of a gun, I won. Never counted nothing but the current shot.

The largest factor in how well and consistently the balls break is how tight the rack is. How does racking work in your matches?

Safe break in 8 ball league? Are we nuts? That will turn a 3 hr league match into a 3 week league match.

How many of you have actually played pool with CJ?

Janhaus said:

At the very end of the shot, see in the video the 2 shots - the cue tip veers to the left (from my angle)

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So, well after the tip hits the cue ball?

Chopdoc said:

Yeah...but I still can't program a VCR....

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The very name of the device should be a clue, Vague Chance of Recording.

KINGSCOURT905 said:

That's a great story, and it fits what I'm seeing. The power guys couldn't solve the little tables, and then the old fella comes along at three-quarter speed and the balls just find the pockets. I hadn't thought about it the way you put it, the speed and the spin changing the rebound angle off the rails. Do you break softer on the bar box yourself now, or was that a lesson you only watched the once?

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My bar box break has cobwebs.
Being the old guy now, my go to game would be last pocket 8 ball played to BCAPL rules.
I earned The Master rating in the Northwest playing bar box 8 ball on the Oregon coast. (A fine vacation I might add).
SHooter cue always with second ball break. It only works on some tables. Well moves the 8 ball, it works on the theory of leaving a technical puzzle that requires Jui Jitsu like attack....and or defend or Both.... Plus my break and make a ball was Good. a no brainer.

freds, fair question, so a straight answer: no, I am not an AI. I am a real guy in Hamilton, Ontario, name is David Finlay. If you want to check me out, follow me on LinkedIn under David Finlay, or on Instagram at @mykingscourtofficial, and message me there. Happy to have a proper chat with you anytime.

gregcantrall said:

Oh excuse me I am instant giggles as my skim hits Break Cue!!!!! I an still giggles.
Ivory tip and Cole broke with his shooter. As precision overcomes power, just like Jiu-jitsu.
Elmer glue requires time to cure when done properly it's good as or goider than new.
Break cues are High performance instruments just like a tuned race car ..... most want the car before learning to drive it.

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That race car line is about right, most of us want the car before we learn to drive it. I'm with you on precision over power, that's the lesson I'm taking from this thread. Do you still break with your shooter, or did a break cue win you over in the end?

dr_dave said:

You can watch all the shots in the video to judge for yourself. The 3-railer gave a bad result much more than I thought it would (especially at the slow-ish speed Filler used).

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Thanks for running that down, Dave, that's a real answer. I didn't expect the three-railer to come out that badly at the slow speed either, which makes me look at Filler's choice a bit differently. Did the medium one-railer leave him any better off when it missed, or was it a sell-out either way once he missed?