So you’re saying that the nine ball does not have to move in the same frame rather it must move the frame right after… and if the nine ball did not move the frame right after (your chosen one) then you deduced that it is not a fault…
Ok, just no. Again you’re wrong. I will not write a wall of text but that just not how frames and pictures work. It does not have to be the frame after. And it can still be a foul
Cheers.
What I've said has been crystal clear and repeated many times, but I will go ahead and state it for you once more, just please make sure to read it however many times it takes for it to really sink in and take the time to really think it out so you actually comprehend and understand it. In regards to things like a cue shaft side swiping a spherical pool ball sitting on a pool table covered in brand new Simonis 860 that is sitting under hot lights as was the case here (i.e. the fastest, slickest conditions), if a ball has been hit hard enough to be moved, it starts moving right away. It doesn't sit there absolutely perfectly still for a while before deciding to move at some later time or date. That's just not how the physics works. Because of this fact, we know that if the shaft hits the nine ball then in the next frame after that we should be able to see that the ball is no longer in the same place that it was before it was hit, and that it has now moved at least some amount as a result of that impact it received from the shaft.
So what do we actually see in this particular case when we look at the next frame after the foul had to have happened, if it had happened? What we see in that next frame after the foul would have had to have happened, if it happened, is that the nine has not moved even an iota, not even maybe. This strongly indicates that the shaft never hit the nine ball, because if it had we would seen that it had moved at least slightly from where it was before the impact, but yet it hadn't moved even the tiniest, most miniscule bit.
Now you have been and continue to argue that a nine ball hit by a shaft hard enough to move may not actually move right away, that it may and in this case did just decide to sit there dead still for a while before finally deciding to move at some later time at its leisure when it felt good and ready to go ahead and move in reaction to the fact that it was hit by a shaft some while back. Since you keep claiming that is exactly what happened here, I want you to explain the physics of how that would be possible. And for whatever explanation that you try to come up with, I want you to also explain why it would make sense to believe that is more likely what actually happened than the scenario I laid out, which is that no foul occurred, that the nine ball is "moving" in literally 80+% of the frames of the video both before and after the shot because of very obvious camera/video issues, and when you see the nine ball "moving" again
a couple of frames later after the shot, and after the foul would have had to occur, that it was just another one of those 80+% of the frames where the there is the optical illusion of the nine "moving" due to the camera/video issues.
You keep talking about "how frames" work, and are completely oblivious to the fact that this is as much or more about how physics works. Everybody understands videos and frames, except perhaps you. That's the easy basic part. Worry about trying to understand and explain the physics, because that's what you obviously don't understand and your arguments so far have been in conflict with the laws of physics.
I also want to make sure we agree on the same premises, as obvious as they seem I'm wondering if you aren't comprehending that part of things either. Do you agree that in the video in post #138, once the clip actually starts playing at about the 60% point, that there are optical illusions obviously caused by camera/video issues that make the nine ball appear to be "moving" both before and after the shot all over the place in like 80+% of the frames?
Also, if a foul occurred where the shaft hit the nine ball like you say happened, do you agree that it
had to have happened BEFORE this frame taken from the video in post #138? You are going to have to look at a few frames from right before and right after the shot in the video from post #138 in order to be able to answer.