HitHrdNDraw said:

Have them play on 4.75” pockets…. Make them buckets!!!


Worked for the WPBA and ESPN pool back in the mid-2000


Buckets are the great equalizer….

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Reported.

SA96 said:

One thing the Mosconi Cup has shown is that 9 ball on a tight pockets is the most exciting format of pool.

I know Ultimate Pool are thinking of doing their own version of the Mosconi, but I am struggling to get excited for that.

A 7ft table with buckets won't create the same level of excitement.

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The Palace in Bellflower Ca had 2 Bwick 9' ers shimmed to about that size. Wish all pool tables had been like that.

tim913 said:

They should make another “Rocky” movie but instead of an underdog boxer they could use team USA for the Mosconi Cup. Maybe have John Turturro play the crazed heartless coach that has to whip them into a championship team in a short time where they have to live, workout and practice together with no outside interference. Have a lot of T & A so I would watch it and maybe even Sly would do a cameo

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They should make a movie of "Earl", based upon his life...warts and all.

Who would play Earl?

Quesports said:

Jay & I are cut from the same cloth. Luckily we were both involved in pool in the sixties and still live the game.

There are so many reasons that there were great players in that era and a lot of those reasons are reflected by the people of the Philippines. Nothing riles them up. They can focus with any kind of distraction, many unimaginable to the players in this country.

They can shoot that money ball in with a rooster crowing and a dog biting them on the leg!


Add to that they might just be the friendliest people on the planet…

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Everyone dogs it for the money at some point in time.

And this golden era of American pool you speak of was all about hustling. Not championships streamed and played all over the world.

dr_dave said:

Since many people use “squirt” and “CB deflection” interchangeably, it is probably better to have a different term for “net CB deflection” (the combined effects of squirt and swerve). People (including me) have tried “squerve,” but it hasn’t stuck. Maybe “CB offset” is a good alternative. The offset of the CB from the aiming line at the OB is how much a player needs to adjust their aim for a given sidespin shot, based on shot speed, shot distance, amount and type of spin, cue elevation, and conditions.

What do you guys think about using “CB offset” or “aim offset” instead of “net CB deflection?”

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I use the term "offset" freely in my method. It's a requirement of centralized and fixed shot identification (contact points - ) where the shot is the actuality and the shooter must conform to it.

Mosconi Cup solution = 3 parts of play better pool + 1 cup of don't choke the 9ball + a sprinkling of not being so wet (per 100ml of play)

They should make another “Rocky” movie but instead of an underdog boxer they could use team USA for the Mosconi Cup. Maybe have John Turturro play the crazed heartless coach that has to whip them into a championship team in a short time where they have to live, workout and practice together with no outside interference. Have a lot of T & A so I would watch it and maybe even Sly would do a cameo

fastone371 said:

OMG, people actually watch this??? Watching pool table cloth grow lint would be more exciting. Just sayin.

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Chinese 9-ball is F lit. I recommend ignoring a large portion of the event and tuning in from the business end. Insanely good pool, and the pace of play isn't that bad.

jax_joe said:

To make sure there is a gap.

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They are produced in a small tight town of Askham. River flows through it, beautiful views.

OMG, people actually watch this??? Watching pool table cloth grow lint would be more exciting. Just sayin.

My observations here in China, would be that mass produced (in a new colour every season), and what I would call "Factory custom" are heavily outweighing true handmade, custom built cues. There is aggressive marketing from influencers and 'experts'

There used to be a steady and observable market for handmade customs, especially from US makers. But the amount available on buying platforms, and the value of these, seems to be decreasing in general. With some select names being elevated to even more ludicrous prices (Tascarella, Searing, SW). I assume it's these same 'experts' pushing factory built custom who are wanting to make every last bit of profit from their old stock.

Quesports said:

Jay & I are cut from the same cloth. Luckily we were both involved in pool in the sixties and still live the game.

There are so many reasons that there were great players in that era and a lot of those reasons are reflected by the people of the Philippines. Nothing riles them up. They can focus with any kind of distraction, many unimaginable to the players in this country.

They can shoot that money ball in with a rooster crowing and a dog biting them on the leg!


Add to that they might just be the friendliest people on the planet…

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That was before everybody's brain was rewired from being addicted to the internet, social media, and the everyone get's a trophy mentality.

The younger generation in the West is too conditioned to "conditions" that may not exist in other parts of the world.

I lived and played pool in the Philippines for three years and the environment is similar to the pool-playing atmosphere that existed in the USA back in the 60s, minus the chickens running in and out.

Back in the 60s and early 70s, people played and gambled in bars and pool halls that had bands/juke boxes playing full blast, people shouting and raising hell, and maybe even a fight or two going on.

Today's conditions are operating-room sterile compared to the conditions people in the Philippines grow up playing in.

garczar said:

No players under the age of, say, 45ish give a shit about the 'mystique' of a custom cue. A cue is a tool nothing more. I started back when the belief was that to play good you had to go custom. Those days are gone forever. Good playing cues can be had from 100bux on up.

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Not sure I actually buy that. I have many cues and the list keeps growing. My opinion and mine only is those over 45 are buying customs just because, because it looks nice, because they like the maker because they want to possibly flip it later, because what ever, it doesn't matter actually, they are buying it just because they can as those over 45 are the ones who actually have more disposable income to play with, and not because they think that custom plays better.
I have a very desirable custom amongst my many cues, does it play better than my Schon's or Jacoby's, can't say that, does it play worse, heck no. Personally I feel it's just more available income in the older crowd.

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What do you guys think about using “CB offset” or “aim offset” instead of “net CB deflection?”

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I agree with Larry (bbb) that "net deflection/squirt" is best because it highlights the dual effects of squirt and swerve - "offset" sounds more to me like what you do with your tip.

pj
chgo

dr_dave said:

Since many people use “squirt” and “CB deflection” interchangeably, it is probably better to have a different term for “net CB deflection” (the combined effects of squirt and swerve). People (including me) have tried “squerve,” but it hasn’t stuck. Maybe “CB offset” is a good alternative. The offset of the CB from the aiming line at the OB is how much a player needs to adjust their aim for a given sidespin shot, based on shot speed, shot distance, amount and type of spin, cue elevation, and conditions.

What do you guys think about using “CB offset” or “aim offset” instead of “net CB deflection?”

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i would keep the term NET cue ball deflection because it suggests a combined effect

What’s the purpose of this hole in the side?

Jaden said:

...the one in the rear would be MUCH larger than the front one in 3D space.

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Yeah, that's how the illusion works, alright.

SA96 said:

What makes better television?

That's how Matchroom look at things.

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There are more people watching "I Love Lucy" reruns than there are the Mosconi Cup.

Very cool!

loggerhead12 said:

And they all seem to be walking around with $2k in iPhones, Airpods, and Apple watches. If you want something, you'll find the money.

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It’s true, most people would prefer a new iPhone, AirPods, and an Apple Watch over a 10-20% share in a hunk of inlaid wood. Shocking.

Oscar loves to stir the pot on social media. And then wonders why he isn’t picked for things like the mosconi cup

dr_dave said:

If you just play and don’t talk about what is going on, you don’t need words; but on a forum like this, it helps to use words most people interpret correctly.

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Yes, it's about communicating (what forums like this are for) - and learning, which can be useful at any level.

pj
chgo

Jaden said:

Yes and no. They are the same size in 2 dimensional space. They are quite different in 3d space. In fact the one in the rear would be MUCH larger than the front one in 3D space. Even more so than is apparent as represented from the image.

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Good argument. How are you on Escher?