What killed the slip stroke?

... It sure seems dumb to intentionally leave the stick in place at the cb, then slip the hand back several inches to a foot, then squeeze the cue on the final forward stroke and strike the ball. The stick has no momentum in that case, and only the hand does, picking up the stick for the ride.
I think you don't have the motion right. How about:

Hold the stick a hand or a hand and a half forward of the "orthodox, perpendicular" grip position. That is, in fact, where a lot of the old timers routinely held the stick. For hyper-control at 14.1, it can work.

Now you come to a power shot. You have to do something else to get the power. From the set position, slide your hand back to the orthodox grip position, grab the cue, continue bringing your hand back, and then come forward for the power stroke.

Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

Some things to think about, but not related to the exact question....

At a Eurotour event they put slo-mo cameras and such on about 20 top players and measured a bunch of things. A major result was that for all of the players shooting standard shots -- not break shots -- the tip hit the ball at near zero acceleration. The cue was, in effect, coasting through the cue ball.

The theory says that this timing will also be the least effort to accomplish the speed/spin required for a shot. I think it is very difficult or impossible to consciously teach this timing and that the players have simply learned the best/easiest way to hit the ball by years of practice.

Also....

Some say that you have to have a certain strength of grip for some shots. It turns out that that human flesh is so much softer than wood, CF, and even the tip, that during the actual tip/ball contact, the hand is not really involved in the collision. This has been demonstrated with high speed video.

In fact, the original Iron Willie design was broken. The grip was very, very firm. So firm that most of the robot arm was added to the weight of the stick. Iron Willie was redesigned to have a properly compliant grip, I've been told.

What does "Outer Tables" mean at Derby?

My wife wants to buy the stream and they have it listed as Full Pass Event (10 ball, 9 ball etc) and Outer Tables. (lower price)
I'm thinking it means the main table plus the rest, vs the rest (excluding main table)


No description is provided for anyone buying streaming.

I've played at Derby a bit (19 years) and I am not sure what they mean exactly. :)
Thanks
It breaks it down more right on your link at the bottom under FAQs. There is the XPOOL main arena full event pass for only the arena tv table and then there is the Digital Pool pass for all other tables. So if you want to see everything you have to buy both for $70 appearantly.

Surprise !

I have been using the cue for 3 mos or so and have come to like it a lot . I think I play better with it than any of the wood cues I own . I have more confidence when playing harder shots ,especially inside spin . I am leaving the tip as is ,have not even shaped it yet . I have not put away my Bushka style Owen completely , I play a little one pocket with it once in awhile .

Chuckg
It was definately worth the $224 CDN that I paid for it. It works great and I'm playing some fun runout pool with it.

Was pool better 50 years ago?

gamble in Nevada
Well one story was him sitting at a black jack table and wearing a long rider coat. Some would call it trench coat. Anyways he was feeling good and tipping his stoolback on the two back legs. Somehow his feet got entangled with the coat tail and he lost balance. In raising his hands to regain balance he exposed an ace in each palm to the overhead table camera.
Can't remember if that was after or before his statement, "There isn't a casino in Nevada that I haven't been barred from or Run out of. "🤷‍♂️ Cole definitely was an encouragable personality, reminded me of Theodore Cleaver from the Leave it to Beaver tv show..

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