skor said:

I don’t understand this fascination about carbon feeling like wood.
Carbon should feel like carbon and gives the best performance possible.
I have a Revo 12.9mm, doesn’t feel dead to me. I’ve only had a few shots with the Revo 12.4mm, don’t remember it feeling dead either.
Maybe I don’t understand what dead feeling is…. Maybe players should stop using soft tips, that’s the only thing that feels dead to me.

I’ll take the Revo over the Cynergy any day.
Between the Revo and the SMO, I would leave it to taper preference.

In my opinion, most CF options are just cheap alternatives to the Revo.
I have a Revo, SMO, Cynergy, Rhino and Nova to base my opinions on.

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Generally Predator products are quite dead, they always remove as much material as possible. I think your playing style and prefrences matter a lot.
I feel that shafts with little feedback (dead feeling) makes 14.1 really frustrating as there are so many soft shots and generally the play is more finesse than power. If you play mainly 9/10 ball where there's more CB action, it generally makes less of a difference.

If you don't core ebony forearms the weight tends to be on the high side.

I've got a SW I played with for years with Gabbon forearm and Tulipwood points.

It weighs in at 19.5.

That's light for Ebony............

It's not cored.........

I think they are down to just one country for legal Ebony these days........

manopr350 said:

At the present time, most cue makers core the butts. For better stability and can use different woods and still be able to reach the desired weight. So, by coring a piece of wood like, for example, Brazilian Rosewood, the principal characteristics of that wood is lost. Will no longer have the resonance that is the main characteristic of that wood. Now, it is more for the aesthetic of the wood rather than any other characteristics that a particular wood provided when it was not cored.

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I believe that is now the general trend. While aesthetics and cue preservation or durability takes priority now than pure or authentic resonance from a solid full splice wood. Although even there is loss of pure characteristic of wood itself, I believe there is still some level of identity that remains in the hit. Might not be purely the same, but still has some character to a degree.

northdakotafats said:

Have a chance to recharge your shaft yet? How did it turn out?

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Not yet.

Dave38 said:

send it to predator for their revo recharge service....it's only $80 plus shipping. Sanding the shaft will ruin it.

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I'm planning on doing that with Predator shafts, but I have others that I might want to refinish. I've got one I don't care about so if I ruin it, no big deal.

12squared said:

Here's a pic of the world champion chart hanging in the room where Kobayashi won over Sir Raymond.

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Neat! That World Championship was in Antwerp in 1974. Kobayashi broke Ceulemans' winning streak at 11. Kobayashi ended up with 10 second-place finishes in the World Championship and a second gold medal in 1984. He was born at the wrong time.

axejunkie said:

And if anybody has seen the film Only Lovers Left Alive, we have the bullet made from Dalbergia Retusa (cocobolo).

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That would itch and quite possibly be deadly. Woodworkers back in the day was terrified of getting large splinters from certain woods as they are quite toxic to our body and it could result in sepsis or anaphylactic shock, rosewood and ebony are among the species that can trigger this..
As for the hit Cocobolo is a heavy and dense wood, so it's almost always cored and generally with quite a large core to get the right weight and balance. A 5/8" core won't do and even a 3/4" core can be a little small. Some makers use 25/32" which is getting pretty close to that final .840-.850" joint collar diameter. I'm not saying the wood dosn't have an impact, it surely do, but most of the cues you play with, the wood you see on the outside is quite hollowed out, that goes especially for dense woods like certain rosewoods, certain types of ebony and even woods like katalox, purpleheart, DIW and so on.

skogstokig said:

yes.

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Have you ever met a German?

I like cork (real cork, not “rubberized cork”, which is bit of cork glued to rubber).

It’s warm, ever so slightly giving, non slippery and also absorbing of a bit of moisture.

skor said:

CF shafts transfer more energy to the CB and less back to the cue and to the arm, it’s not dead, it just feels different.
Soft tips absorb that energy as well reducing the energy that goes back to the arm making it feel even more dead.
Put a hard tip on s CF shaft and see how lively it is.

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I know what you mean and meant it as a joke. But then, how dare you, Ser !

skogstokig said:

it's a tv table so he can maybe ask for ref to rewatch the shot

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In addition to Bob’s point about whether the video would show it, I’m not sure the WNT allows the ref to check the video in this situation. When the area ref botched the call on a frozen ball hit by Pongers (incorrectly called a push), Marcel was called over. Based on what Dr Dave wrote later, it seems he could not review the footage and thus had to go with the area referee’s call.

skogstokig said:

it's a tv table so he can maybe ask for ref to rewatch the shot

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Sadly, the video seems inconclusive. Maybe the original video -- before YouTube massaged it -- has more frames and is clearer. Maybe the commercial cameras are 60 FPS?

About the massaging... If you step through the YouTube frames (with the ">" key when paused), you can see that some frames are doubled and other frames are skipped. You can see this in how far the cue ball advances (or doesn't) from one frame to the next from the tip-ball contact until the ball-ball contact. That distance travelled should be nearly the same from frame to frame. It isn't.

Rickhem said:

Yes, exactly. That's why I keep my linked account at an absolute minimum balance.
I remember talking with the bank about my second checking account, and what I wanted it for. I made it clear that no outside action would ever be able to impact any other account, or ever be able to cause fees or penalties that would fall back on me. Bank rep that helped me set it up understood exactly what I was trying to do. So far that kind of thing has never happened (kiss of death actually writing that) and I hope the bank lives up to their word if that ever does happen.

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I have two PayPal accounts, one business, one personal.

The linked bank accounts are set to automatically sweep funds into other accounts automatically.

My business account is my revenue stream and that automation keeps the money flowing to interest bearing accounts.

The accounts are checked every day by myself and my bookkeeper. Reports are prepared and sent to me weekly by my bookkeeper, and monthly to my CPA.

it doesnt matter one bit on shooting, so what ever you like the looks of or feel of.

like asking what kind of shoes to wear.

SA96 said:

You think Thorsten is going to turn down $20k?

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yes.