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BNR on 15 ball rotation?

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Frosty said:
He’s actually a great guy and one of the most fierce players I’ve ever seen for the cash in action.
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Had the pleasure of having dinner with him once and I found him to be a truly deep thinker and very forthcoming with some highly nuanced things that have helped me see some things in the game that were hidden for years prior. Great player, yes, but he seems like an awesome guy too.
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Benelli said:
Even better you could try to get a class action status
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The class actions I have been involved with the lawyers got all the money. Hundreds of thousands total. Close to a thousand I was burned. After a few years the members of the class action lawsuit were sent a letter. Send reams of documentation and they would send you a five or ten dollar coupon for something costing many times that where their profit was far more than the amount of the coupon.

I would rather have Wheatbucks, at least I could hang them on the wall for a chuckle!

Hu
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MURRAY TUCKER CUES.

Frosty
HawaiianEye said:
I think Murray only made about 50 cues.

I have one of the first five cues he ever made...a Sneaky Pete.

They are harder to get than a Searing.
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If you EVER want to part with it, please DM me, I will care for it well and it WILL be in the hands of a player. I hit with one once and it was AMAZING. Tried to get the owner to part with it, he said he’d just as soon cut off his arm 😆.
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BNR on 15 ball rotation?

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It would happen more often than you think on a valley bar table. I’m nowhere near world class, maybe not even a shortstop depending on your definition but I have roasted people giving me 15:1 against it per game on several occasions. A good breaker can make 3-4 balls once in awhile and it’s a completely different deal then.

Change it to a diamond 7’ with procut pockets and yeah it’ll take a heap of chances to complete one unless we’re talking about only 770+ guys.

But ultimately I doubt you sell many tickets unless you pay per ball like maybe 3-5% per ball and you get the whole thing if you run them all.
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Possible Ricco Cervantes / Gandy Cue – Rosewood Titlist?

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I recently picked up this unmarked cue and have been trying to work through the construction before assigning anything to it.

At this point, I suspect it may be an early Gandy cue by Ricco Cervantes, possibly built from a rosewood Brunswick Titlist blank. I’m hoping someone familiar with these early Gandy/National cues can either confirm that direction or tell me where I’m going wrong.

Two of Chopdoc’s cues in the Gandy Cue Information thread particularly caught my attention, for different reasons.

First is his ebony Titlist HC-140, identified by Dick Abbott as a circa-1969 Ricco Cervantes. The point geometry and veneer configuration look remarkably similar to this cue, with the obvious difference being ebony versus what appears to be rosewood here:

https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/gandy-cue-information.127423/post-6283210

Separately, Chopdoc’s HC-150 caught my attention because of several other construction details. In particular, the translucent material and ring arrangement at the joint look very similar, as does the veneer-style ringwork at the butt sleeve. That cue is also described as having aluminum shaft inserts and two shafts:

https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/gandy-cue-information.127423/post-6284550

I realize these are two different cues, so I’m not suggesting that either one individually duplicates this cue. What caught my attention is that several of its more unusual construction details seem to appear across these early Gandy/Cervantes examples.

A few details and measurements from this cue:

• 57 5/8” overall
• Butt: 28 7/8” excluding pin, 15.3 oz
• Two shafts: 28 1/2” to end of ferrule, 4.4 oz and 4.1 oz
• Both ferrules approximately 12.7 mm x 1”
• 5/16-18 joint
• 21.0 mm joint diameter
• Metal shaft inserts appear to be aluminum/nonmagnetic
• Approximately 13” linen wrap
• Butt diameter approximately 1.27”
• Four-point/four-veneer full-splice forearm
• No markings found anywhere

The cue was reportedly purchased years ago at a flea market in Chicago.

Does Ricco Cervantes / early Gandy look like the right direction here? And does the forearm appear to be a rosewood Brunswick Titlist blank?

Any information, corrections or comparable examples would be greatly appreciated.
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30 min practice spurts.. better then hit a million balls?

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trob said:
Plus just because you play great doesn’t mean you know how to communicate and makes things work with that persons game. Teaching and playing our two different skills.
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You could get out a hammer and chisel and write this on a rock! Few top players are good teachers, particularly in their competitive years. It takes a different mindset, almost a different personality.

In threads where it is relevant many people hold on to the belief that they aren't going to take lessons from somebody that can't beat them. Countless olympic medalists do! Also, sometimes you take one thing from somebody or a book, sometimes there are tons of goodness to be had. An old man that used to drive midgets gave me a few tips that were solid gold despite me driving a late model stock car!

Goodness is where you find it. Sometimes it comes from a counterman or an old man at the counter. Got to be able to sort through information and sort what is good and what is garbage. Gold is found where you expect it, sometimes where you don't expect it too!

Hu
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