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Steel Joint vs. non-steel Joint (Phenolic / Juma / Elforyn / Ivory) – Which Do You Prefer?

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Matt_24 said:
I've played with steel joints for years (Schon and Joss). I still love Schon and Joss cues (I have several in my stash of cues), but for play I have recently switched to the basic Meucci cue. I really like the hit and feel. I have two new Meucci cues now - a gambler (with the Joker cards) and a wild pink plain Meucci as a backup. They feel and play virtually identical.
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How do you like the extra long Meucci pro taper?
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Pro Pocket Size TOO Small for 9 Ball

Island Drive
Lowell said:
To me it's crazy that pro pool players these days are such accurate shooters that they make 4 and 1/8th inch pockets look like buckets.

I know the cloth is usually brand new, but that's still impressive.
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WRONG
They use new cloth in All majors.
In a dry room with new cloth it's ok 4'' corner pockets, cept the side pockets R TOO small.
I've seen side pocket misses close up, that I never saw cept when I was a beginner.

We now have the European mindset of changing the ball colors.
And the sides are Snooker Small.
I think MR should Round the edges of the side pockets like snooker? Why the heck not?
And the four and five ball colors are ???????
I think we should change the four ball in snooker and make it pink, and make all the reds a lighter color to warm up the table look.
Europe has more weather, cold, darkness, how about making all the reds a light Pink.
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2026 Reyes Cup - October 15-18

sjm
jbart65 said:
I enjoyed the team match. Mediocre play, yes? Twenty-four misses combined. Tells me there were a lot of nerves on both sides. Some shocking misses and misplays on positioning. Made the team match more unpredictable.
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True, but I can get unpredictable watching two Fargo 650 players matching up. I watch the best because I like excellence, not unpredictability.
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Steel Joint vs. non-steel Joint (Phenolic / Juma / Elforyn / Ivory) – Which Do You Prefer?

CajunPopeye
july9x said:
I'm curious to hear from players who have tried both steel and non-metal joints such as Phenolic / Juma / Elforyn / Ivory (white or black hard plastic typed meterial)

Which do you prefer, and why? I'm interested in differences in hit feel, feedback, balance, and overall playability.

Does one feel stiffer or provide better feedback than the other, or is the difference mostly personal preference?

For those who have owned or played with both, which would you choose for your playing cue?

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I prefer piloted steel joints. I've had Players cues, 2 Mizeraks, a Meucci, no name, and 2 Joss. I prefer the feel of the Joss.
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Steel Joint vs. non-steel Joint (Phenolic / Juma / Elforyn / Ivory) – Which Do You Prefer?

Matt_24
garczar said:
If given ten cues with their joints covered how many do you think you could identify? Be surprised if anyone could pick three. Back when Mchesney did that test one player was a Meucci staff player and the cue he like the best turned out to be a steel joint Helmsetter. Stiffest cue i ever hit was a SW with that parabolic taper. Damn near unplayable imo. Back to the OP and i'm sticking with what i said: the joint has very little influence on how a cue plays.
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On the new Southwest that I had delivered years ago (after a 16 year wait) I had one of the shafts made with the pro taper, and I liked that one much better.
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