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Do the top one pocket players almost never shoot that spin transfer shot when there are two balls frozen on the spot?

Island Drive
Bob Jewett said:
Yes, a lot of them pass on the shot, but I think it's the right shot for any pro who can shoot a straight back draw shot from four diamonds away. Of course, if you hit it mediocre, it can lose, especially if you get a kiss. Also, you have to be sure the balls are spotted correctly.
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I remember that period where this shot showed up.
Question Bob.... If I remember correctly the shooter would place the cb slighly left of center for the draw position.
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Coffee at Midnight

Island Drive
When you said Reno.... and seeing Jay posting and all the pro events I attended there, I Immediately thought of Louie Lemke, and the vegetarian restaurant a short walk away from the event center that he took me too.
I was a midwest borne steak, potato and salad guy.
Louie was MN.
A first.... I enjoyed the slimy, wormy, slippery spicey health foods, went there a few more times.
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Gold Crown VII (seven) pocket liner sound

K
I've recently started playing at a place that has GC VII tables with ball returns. The tables play great, I can run balls, so no complaints there.

I spent many many years playing on GC IV tables with ball returns, and got used to two things: the sound when a ball hit the back of the pocket at speed, and the occasional times when a ball would come back up out of the pocket because it went in with a lot of spin and 'grabbed' the pocket liner.

The GC VII doesn't have the 'ball pops out' problem, but the pocket liner sound is harsh - it sounds like the ball has hit the wooden frame of the rail directly. The first few times it happened I actually checked the pocket liner to make sure I hadn't cracked it or something.
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Do the top one pocket players almost never shoot that spin transfer shot when there are two balls frozen on the spot?

lfigueroa
cuetechasaurus said:
The shot I’m referring to is usually after someone scratches and two balls get frozen to the spot. You hit the top ball with a lot of draw at an angle to transfer follow to that ball and it goes towards their pocket, and IIRC the second ball goes a few rails towards their pocket as well. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone shoot this shot in recent memory. I think the last time I saw someone shoot it was Efren some years ago. Is the shot considered not reliable and has a potential to sell out?
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I think variations in equipment -- cloth and condition of the balls -- make reliable outcomes on this shot, well, unreliable.

I can only think of one guy that would always shoot it and he was pretty good at it. Everyone else is going to play the safe. If I'm feeling jiggy with it I'll occasionally shoot the back ball two rail bank with the CB going three rails... but I have to be in pretty good mood and already torturing the other guy.

Lou Figueroa
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How to adjust for banks close to the rail?

Patrick Johnson
Bob Jewett said:
Set up a mirror image target. Find the line for a straight such bank that sits at 2 from the end rail. Extend that line forward until it hits the extended end rail nose. The intersection is the target for all cross-side banks that are sliding. The point is roughly three diamonds from the side rail rail nose along the nose line of the end rail.

Of course this does not include any side spin you get on the object ball, but it does give you a starting point for twisted shots.
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So, Spot On the Wall, but only 3/4 as far from the table as usual…?

pj
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