At the local level, let's say 650 and under, the 9 ball break is WAY easier than the 10 ball. Both with the 1 on the spot, and break from anywhere. Go to a room with typical balls, a typical triangle rack, typical worn simonis 1-2 years old. Break 10 racks of 9 ball, and 10 racks of 10 ball. I'll give good odds the 9 ball breaks will be way more effective.

sjm said:

Exactly right. 9ball with WNT rules is the best test of cueing skills today. Jayson Shaw is right in suggesting that the 10ball break is the most broken of them all. The two balls behind the one are dead in the side and the two corner balls are wired to go four rails into the bottom corners.

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The two balls behind the top ball has been "fixed" in Heyball by using a mechanical rack. Do this and move the rack up so the second line is set on the foot string, and 10 ball is fixed

Double-Dave said:

If you legally make any ball with number 2 or higher except on the break you win that rack, is what it would normally mean.

Obviously, this is a giant spot only meant for a considerable difference in skill level.

Since it's soooo many balls the caveat might be made that you have to always call the ball you're about to pot.

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Yeah, no kidding.

I wonder if one of us duplicated a layout on a neutral table and took a picture of it, if the pro that shot it would immediately recognize it, where it was, who his opponent was, etc. Just like the video did with Magnus.

Bob Jewett said:

As I've heard it, to spot someone "and out" means that and all the following balls are winning balls for the spotee. "I'll spot you the five-out," is the way I think it is usually said, and that means the 5, 6, 7, and 8 are immediate wins. However, it is better to ask all the details before the game starts. Like whether balls count on the break. So in the fourth rack you finally get to break and finally make a ball -- the 8 -- and the opponent says, "No, they don't count on the break, of course. They never count on the break. And it stays down."

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Heh... yeah, I can just imagine. lol That's a huge spot then, the 2 ball and out.

I’ve owned more than a few pechauer cues. One of my first “serious” cues was a plain Jane pechauer JP with a P+lite shaft. I loved the way it shot. You actually got feedback from the hit. At the time it was the best I could afford. Unfortunately I sold it. Wish I still had it. My current shooter is an Pechauer ivory limited edition #7/10 paired with a 12.4 Rogue shaft. Matching joint protectors by Danny Sergeon. Pechauer makes a good cue and they’re consistent in quality. Even the lower end cues hit well imo. Pics for tax. I love the ivory joint. The feel and feedback is top notch. My only complaint is the lower end cues look kind of budget. But they still hit well.

So when I was in college the table top trivia games were all the rage. Most offered multiple categories and some gave the correct answer if you were wrong. Well I played a lot of sex trivia. You got credit for speed in answering and there were bonus levels.

I am playing sex trivia with a drop dead gorgeous nursing student who had a sister and brother in some of my political science classes. The sister walks up as we finish a game and the girl enters our initials in the list of high scores. 10 on the list and we were top 8. Highest score was around 1.6 million. All were over a million.

The sister flips out and says let me see something. She proceeds to look at the high scores for music trivia and then high scores for movie trivia. No high scores were over 600,000. She then grabs the girl who is playing trivia with me and drags her away saying you need to stay away from this guy.

I'm not sure how this could be any further from a sneaky Pete

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