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⚡Warning! More miscues w. some training balls ⚡
- By Paul_#_
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Miscues are most often caused by a bad stroke. Even with the best stroke, however, miscues occur where player hits too far from cue-ball center. It is generally accepted that the maximum distance from cue-ball center before miscuing is one-half of cue-ball radius (0.5R, 9/16", 14.3mm). Some billiard-ball stripes are that width. With some effort, Dr. Dave found a maximum miscue limit of 0.55R. Certainly, beginning players should keep within 0.5R to prevent miscues.
The Jim Rempe Training ball has a miscue limit of 0.7R — a disaster. See photo below of a 12.6mm cue tip sitting in front of a Rempe ball. The cue-tip edge sits above the ball's widest training-ball circle for applying spin (20.2mm from ball center). Applying draw at 0.7R requires the tip to scrape the pool-table cloth.
CueSight’s Precision Training ball provides guides at a 0.61R distance — also impossible for beginner to achieve without miscuing. CueSight and Rempe balls should be like that of the Elephant Practice ball that has a training circle of 0.5R (the white ball with a red circle below).
Experienced players --- not beginners --- know the training balls’ training circles are unrealistic. A DrDave video shows a Rempe ball miscuing well within the zone that supposedly spin can be applied (0.6R). When YouTuber Ron the Pool Student uses a Rempe ball in figures, cue tip hits well above Rempe maximum. In photo below, he shows tip contacting ball at a Rempe-3 marking (0.5R). The tip crosses Rempe circles marked two to five. Since tip contact would be on the left half of the tip, actual contact would be at about 3. Training balls instruct players to find the chalk smudge on training ball to determine where tip hit ball --- that would be at about the left half of tip if left spin is applied.
Others that appear to have the realistic, training-circle sizes like that of the Elephant Ball are iCue, Q-Tru, and Action Toxic.
In photo below the balls' circumference is measured while in text above the linear distance is discussed.
The white ball with red circle and black band is an Elephant ball; the red and white ball is a CueSight; and the one on the right is a Jim Rempe ball..
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The Jim Rempe Training ball has a miscue limit of 0.7R — a disaster. See photo below of a 12.6mm cue tip sitting in front of a Rempe ball. The cue-tip edge sits above the ball's widest training-ball circle for applying spin (20.2mm from ball center). Applying draw at 0.7R requires the tip to scrape the pool-table cloth.
CueSight’s Precision Training ball provides guides at a 0.61R distance — also impossible for beginner to achieve without miscuing. CueSight and Rempe balls should be like that of the Elephant Practice ball that has a training circle of 0.5R (the white ball with a red circle below).
Experienced players --- not beginners --- know the training balls’ training circles are unrealistic. A DrDave video shows a Rempe ball miscuing well within the zone that supposedly spin can be applied (0.6R). When YouTuber Ron the Pool Student uses a Rempe ball in figures, cue tip hits well above Rempe maximum. In photo below, he shows tip contacting ball at a Rempe-3 marking (0.5R). The tip crosses Rempe circles marked two to five. Since tip contact would be on the left half of the tip, actual contact would be at about 3. Training balls instruct players to find the chalk smudge on training ball to determine where tip hit ball --- that would be at about the left half of tip if left spin is applied.
Others that appear to have the realistic, training-circle sizes like that of the Elephant Ball are iCue, Q-Tru, and Action Toxic.
In photo below the balls' circumference is measured while in text above the linear distance is discussed.
The white ball with red circle and black band is an Elephant ball; the red and white ball is a CueSight; and the one on the right is a Jim Rempe ball..
Best All-Around Production Cue for ~$1000 (Value, Playability, Durability, Support)?
- By lakeman77
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- 132 Replies
Not the ones I have had. can't dent 'em. can't break 'em. well finished. If a Cuetec falls on to a chair the chair gets hurt
Millions $$$$ made with Cuetec cues. Probably the most money making cue out there. That should be all you need to know.
Billiard game from the early 1900's
- By skogstokig
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- 9 Replies
there are also bar billiards tables, they also have holes in the middle of table:
but the balls and standing along the long rail isn't compatible
Class Move by Tyler Styer in Iowa, 10 Ball Showdown , against Justin Bergman
- By freds
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I agree - those rules say only say non-obvious shots "should" be called. So even if non-obvious, it's not obvious that you must call it. If they mean must, they should say "must". And then you need to define "non-obvious". perhaps with an "i.e." instead of an "e.g.". And the Ultimate Pool rule implies that's it's the ref's responsibility to ask if they think the shot is not obvious. Needs some work there.
Yes, I think that's correct. I sometimes play a guy from the DR and The Rules are part of the game. If you're playing call shot and make any combination/carom/billiard/kick without calling it, expect to lose your turn (or get into a discussion.) His English is worse than my Spanish, so at first there was some delay in play.
But it's not him trying to get one over, just a different style of play. I've got no problem with it. (A pleasure to play with; quick to call fouls on himself, shoots fast, no sharking despite the reputation. And never a problem making a game.)