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Have you ever known any players who played really good with the heavy (mud) cue ball, that you see on so many Valley coin op tables?

ShootingArts
straightline said:
Ok. I'm a brute force kinda non player - which is how I _would_ steal. lol. Moving along, I'm still curious about your conquests. It's historical.
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My conquests were almost historical, they were hysterical. Close but no cigar!

One of the funnier, I dropped a man doing some work for me at a bar where he wanted to stop. I went in with him and bought him a beer and me a soda water. It was cool inside and a hot day outside so I stuck some money in a bar table. Me and Joe played awhile then this other guy, Bill I think, challenged. We played a few games with him too, first balls I had hit in several years. Mid game of about our third game Bill looked at me, "He is a pool player!" Sounded like he was calling me a child molester! I had to leave to avoid a fight just playing for the table.

Hu
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Footage of Jay Helfert in some serious pool action

Rusty in Montana
If I remember correctly both Frank McGowan George Frank were at this tournament .
It was the maiden voyage for the oak pool tables and the logo in the middle of the table was to catch the eye of the viewer but I believe it wasn't very popular with the players as it was a high spot so to speak on the cloth .

Both George and Frank received a ear full because of the logo there .
George is still going down to the Casino every morning which was better known as the Broadwater Corner Pocket the flagship of his pool rooms .
Thank,you for posting this and bring back a bunch of good memories !
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A day at the Room/Next

jay helfert
maha said:
for a great road player. your post has you sunk below the Bismark at the bottom of the sea.

go to the dam pool room and beat all those 500 to 600 players for all their cash while being on the lemon.
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So many times I was working at a tournament and someone would ask me if I play pool. Ha Ha! They found out, but not for free. Sometimes only a race for 100, but sometimes 50 or 100 a game!

Platis harassed me to play 1K a game One Pocket I had never bet that much and didn't have the bankroll to do it. I knew I could beat him. He had challenged me to play some 9-Ball with him when he came down early to warm up for his match. He had to talk me into it because I had work to do. He says practice but for 25 a game. 400 later he quits and after that is when he tried to high roll me.

A few months later I sold some property and got a check for 48K. Next time he asked I said okay. He didn't like it so much later.
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Footage of Jay Helfert in some serious pool action

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jay helfert said:
You guys are sooo smart! Let me see you do it on the first try. Of couse its a stop shot. Duh! The trick is not simply to make the OB, but keep any other balls from falling.

Go ahead, show me what you got. And tell us how many tries. No doctoring of the rack or balls.
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aha!! so it was the cloth! the old tape/glue on the cloth trick.




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Flatter shaped vs more round shaped tip

jay helfert
maha said:
when i put a new tip on i play with the whole 14mm thing unshaped to break it in and also to convince myself that tip anything doesn't matter much.

so after a short time i am playing basically full speed with the 14 mm flat new tip hanging over the sides of the ferral.
then shape it a small amount and play, and same results. little by little until its about where it should be and then dont worry after that at all.

lots of chalking, or only once or twice a rack or after a big draw shot, and all same with no miscues,

some of my tips are 50 plus years old and still are fine.

after a couple racks i dont notice whether i am using wrapped, leather or nothing on the butt. and still shoot my game.
shafts from about 12 to 14 the same. but i like 13 the best.

i have 10 dollar sticks up to thousands and play same with all as long as shaft is slippery without coating on it.

same with any different set of balls. and dont wear special shoes or worry about the lighting.
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I can relate. It would take years of play to wear out a tip. I used Champions back then.
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Footage of Jay Helfert in some serious pool action

jay helfert
Patrick Johnson said:
Yes.


I guess you're right - I assumed the object ball was under the corner of the rack (like the other two OBs), but after looking again I see it's just far enough away to leave room for the CB to stop under the corner - I can see it stop without rolling forward, now that I look for that. I wonder if the OB position needs to be "cheated" like that (no offense, Jay).

pj
chgo
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You guys are sooo smart! Let me see you do it on the first try. Of couse its a stop shot. Duh! The trick is not simply to make the OB, but keep any other balls from falling.

Go ahead, show me what you got. And tell us how many tries. No doctoring of the rack or balls.
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