please REP Smorg into #1, please move to NPR anytime ty :)

Wait.. I don't have a dog in this fight at all, but wasn't Jay's joke racist too?

You know, I've been telling that joke for years to all different kinds of people, and everyone usually has a good laugh, including my Jewish friends. IMO it's a pretty harmless joke. Sorry if I offended anyone.

By the way, I'm Jewish myself. :)
 
I wasn't offended, just didn't want someone to get banned over it. It would be hard to find where to draw the line on that type of joke..

Ordered your book, by the way.. Can't wait to get it!
 
Okay...I've only been on here for a year or so and I don't mean ANY disrespect but...

1. I don't know much about Smorg, I've rarely seen his posts on here.

2. Who cares about rep and who's first?

I'm sure I'll get red repped for my callus response. I'm very sorry to hear about the things Smorg has been going through but I feel I should treat ALL my fellow AZers the same. Smorg, I mean no disrespect to you. But again, I guess I don't understand why I should rep someone just so they can keep their standing. I will continue to rep based on posts and posts only....although, now that my wife is on here I may have to be a LITTLE biased.

Tap! Tap! Tap! Rep is not a popularity contest as so many seem to think nowdays. It is designed to reward posters who post significant content
about subjects dealing with POOL. It has been raped and raped and denigrated into a meaningless symbol.
 
Can't Lurk Any Longer.....

First there was a thread excoriating Fatboy because he didn't give up #1 spot fast enough, assaulting his character for not sticking to his word. Then he comes here in this thread, asks everyone to make an effort to get Smorgass Bored back in the #1 spot. You people got what you wanted, but it seems you want a couple pounds of his flesh as well. He did what you asked, so be happy your guy is #1 again and let this namby pamby stuff die.

There is a word for what Fatboy represents on this forum:

Queen

He is the drama queen of this place.

Who else even attempts to give the long, rambling, not thought out, misspelled, ridiculous, retarded, unimaginable, can not be fully understood during the first 4 reads, threads that provoke more emotions (usually negative) than any other 5 threads combined?

Fatboy, I am tired of having to read through 10 pages of people being pissed-off to get to a real update on how Smorg is doing. Time to become a King, the King of PMs (no guys, not PMS, but private messages). Then we all don't have to suffer

-The voice of the unregistered and/or unposting forum reading public
 
Not that he needs defending, but...

Dudlock, why shouldn't you get a ban for the racist humor?

...I think the joke "makes fun" of racism because the genie was gone for 100 years and didn't realize that things have progressed a bit here in the good 'ol USA. It is not condoning hanging of African Americans, just using irony to make a point...imo. And I think it captures the state of pool quite well, again...imo.

MM
 
There is a word for what Fatboy represents on this forum:

Queen

He is the drama queen of this place.

Who else even attempts to give the long, rambling, not thought out, misspelled, ridiculous, retarded, unimaginable, can not be fully understood during the first 4 reads, threads that provoke more emotions (usually negative) than any other 5 threads combined?

Fatboy, I am tired of having to read through 10 pages of people being pissed-off to get to a real update on how Smorg is doing. Time to become a King, the King of PMs (no guys, not PMS, but private messages). Then we all don't have to suffer

-The voice of the unregistered and/or unposting forum reading public

Welcome aboard.WOW,what away to make a first impression.lol:D
 
There is a word for what Fatboy represents on this forum:

Queen

He is the drama queen of this place.

Who else even attempts to give the long, rambling, not thought out, misspelled, ridiculous, retarded, unimaginable, can not be fully understood during the first 4 reads, threads that provoke more emotions (usually negative) than any other 5 threads combined?

Fatboy, I am tired of having to read through 10 pages of people being pissed-off to get to a real update on how Smorg is doing. Time to become a King, the King of PMs (no guys, not PMS, but private messages). Then we all don't have to suffer

-The voice of the unregistered and/or unposting forum reading public

Welcome aboard!!!
 
ShootingArts said:
It has long been obvious that everything about me makes you sick.

It's called envy!

All of the dollar signs, all of the imagined juice, and you can't get the real respect an old broke and broken down pool player like me gets from the decent members of the forum.

It does suck to be you doesn't it?

Hu
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That's good stuff there! High five, sir.

(apparently I've left you rep points in the not so distant past. If ever there was a rep worthy post, this is one of them. The system won't allow me to leave you a nice comment in the rep box so I had to tell you here)
 
Do you really believe all of this? My thoughts on the bolded parts, in order:

This forum had no shortage of "hits" prior to the rep being implemented into the forum.

People come to this forum specifically because of the rep system (which no stranger outside of this forum even knows about)? This silly rep thing is not known nationwide and people do not flock here to "experience the azb rep system".

Someone that was never really into pool is going to somehow learn about this unknown rep game and decide that they're all of the sudden interested in the game and love the game because of the rep software installed on this forum?

I'm starting to see a trend here. People that were not members or lurkers prior to the rep system, give it entirely too much credit. People that were here prior to the system understand what a farce it is and how it leads no creedence to anyone's worthiness. The comments are nice and I think everyone enjoys that aspect of the software. How can anyone not see (just from the comments alone "hit me back with rep") that it cannot be taken seriously when judging someones character because of the game a lot of people play by repping friends needlessly in order to bump them above someone they don't like. There's simply no merit or worthiness to the numbers. The comments that only the two people involved get to see is where the merit really is.


No I do not believe this it was not my theory it was posted in a previous post ... All I was trying to point out is as crazy as this sounds if it were even remotly true what would be the harm in it if it helped the game ...helped get the word out amd helped this site....
 
There is a word for what Fatboy represents on this forum:

Queen

He is the drama queen of this place.

Who else even attempts to give the long, rambling, not thought out, misspelled, ridiculous, retarded, unimaginable, can not be fully understood during the first 4 reads, threads that provoke more emotions (usually negative) than any other 5 threads combined?

Fatboy, I am tired of having to read through 10 pages of people being pissed-off to get to a real update on how Smorg is doing. Time to become a King, the King of PMs (no guys, not PMS, but private messages). Then we all don't have to suffer

-The voice of the unregistered and/or unposting forum reading public

You have got to love this!!! One post and "MahnaMahna has a reputation beyond repute" In less than 6 hours.... WOW!!! Nice post BTW, I like it when someone tells how they really feel.
 
If rep isn't broken, explain how I am around #120 in terms of rep in two short months?
I'm pretty sure I haven't contributed half as much to this forum as many people with less rep than me.
They should be way up higher on that list, but they're not.
 
I'm too new to understand this "rep" thing. Am I to understand that if you like what someone has to say in a thread then you give them good rep, but if you don't than you give them bad rep? Or are some people just taking this a bit far and turning it into a popularity contest?!

We are all human, and therefore will have unique thoughts and opinions on all kinds of different subjects. This forum is specific in relation to the game of billiards. There are many types of billiard games, and that is why our favorites will not always be someone else's favorites. That is what makes a forum like this fun and educational. No matter how good or bad we may be at this game, you can learn from anyone. But just because your opinion on something differs from others, does that make them wrong?

Enough with the badmouthing. If you don't like what someone has to say, then just don't listen. Defend yourself, but don't lower yourself to the level of the other person. Be the better individual. It will upset them more when they don't get a rise out of you.

Looking at a lot of these threads, they start out pretty good. A lot of people have good things to say. Then some lame duck comes on and starts bashing someone's opinion and all hell breaks loose. That is exactly what that person wants. They want to get a reaction out of you and see who the tougher typer is. Keyboard tough guys are my favorite. Tell them that their tough typing is turning you on, or better yet just ignore them and concentrate on the good threads. They'll get tired of not getting anyone to react and stop posting.

Sorry to drag on about such a boring, but all too often topic here on AZ. I hope to have many productive conversations with all of the members that want to chat intelligently. I'm enough dumb for all of us, so just let me play that role, and we'll have a good time.
 
The King said:
All I was trying to point out is as crazy as this sounds if it were even remotly true what would be the harm in it if it helped the game ...helped get the word out amd helped this site....

If that were the case, then we wouldn't be having these discussions because the system would be valid (it will never be valid but since we're now talking hypothetically...). If it were valid and actually had merit to it then all of these threads full of folks like myself trying to get people to understand that the system, as it is now, is not nearly as important as people think it is, would not exist.

There seems to be a few folks that have joined within the last few yrs, after the inception of the system that have misunderstood it's meaning. They have the perception that it's valid and actually means something and proves something to others about their character. This is what I would call a gross misconception. A few of us that were here before the inception of the system and know what its really about, have been trying to help those that are naive about it, understand it. Most just stay out of it but there's a few of us that are bothered by watching people unwittingly give credence to something that is ultimately worthless.

jcommie said:
If rep isn't broken, explain how I am around #120 in terms of rep in two short months?
I'm pretty sure I haven't contributed half as much to this forum as many people with less rep than me.
They should be way up higher on that list, but they're not.

akaTrigger said:
Maybe you are making good posts and contributing to the forum and people are repping you for that?
The answer to jcommie's question is twofold.

1. Due to the high number of members that have been here longer than the rep system has been in place, and the silly "rep orgies" (not my terminology but it works) a lot of people here have an exorbitant amount of rep points accumulated which as most know, means the rep points you receive from these folks is quite high.

2. jcommie has been active in the high profile threads. Doing this means more people see his posts than if he were regulating himself to "normal" threads that aren't garnering as much attention. Higher profile thread means more eyes see his posts which means he gets more rep sent his way.
 
Brozif said:
I'm too new to understand this "rep" thing. Am I to understand that if you like what someone has to say in a thread then you give them good rep, but if you don't than you give them bad rep? Or are some people just taking this a bit far and turning it into a popularity contest?!
All of the above.

Welcome to the forum, I like your outlook on things. :thumbup:
 
I'm just here for the pool info and camaraderie- I'd like to think that I'm well-thought-of, but the "rep" deal doesn't really enter into it- the self-agrrandizement that some members indulge in is really disheartening and doesn't benefit this site in any way.:confused:
 
straight from the horse's . . . . um, mouth!

The red highlighting is to show what I am responding to that eric wrote, otherwise a complete quote of a post of fatboy's from another thread.

I know how fast I acumulate REP points as a % of my total points and if I didnt play the REP game EVERYDAY(i havent missed a day not one in over a year, even the days i had back operations i still repped), i would fall from #2 down to #3 or #4 within 2 weeks.

because its a progressive system with inflation you have to keep active to stay on top, Smorg and I have talked about this alot, like pool there is immence pressure to be high in the rankings.

I REP people in a specific way often as possible to be fair to all my friends and appericate it when they REP me back. its about scknologing your friends and showing respect.


20% of my total points I have, i have just got them in just the past 2 weeks!!, the other 80% took years, so thats why you see movment at the top, Smorg and I just dont miss days and we make good posts that get well deserved REP, somedays I dont get any REP when I dont make good posts, its alot of work to be up top. Jay Helfert was #1 over a year ago now he isnt as active and barley on the first page.

THAT 20% thats awalys obtained in the past 2 weeks is what determines where you are on the ladder, its competitive for sure for that reason. When I moved into #2 spot I had maybe 30,000 points total, now I'm way over a million, in a year a million will be small, it will be 10 million who knows??? I might make a table and see how many points i accumulate every month so o/we can forcast when the 10 mil mark will be achieved.

It also make's want to make good posts to get more REP that I might otherwise-its a good system.



The above is the rep game explained straight from the horse's mouth of the biggest gamer in rep, fatboy. Note that he is repping people in a specific way. There is only one way to give rep so that seems to mean in a specific order, as in going down a list. No doubt the people on the list also have their copies that they use too. Nothing to do with good posts or bad, just go down the list repping your cohorts in the game as often as you can in a set order so that you can return to them as often as possible.

Anyone reading this that still believes the rep ranking has any real meaning after this has went on for over a year?? I do like being able to send people a quick "attaboy" but I wish there was a way to disable the button to sort members by reputation ranking or lock that page.

Hu
 
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Rather it be the rep system or I trader it would be foolish to put your trust in either ... For me the only true method to judge a AZ'er is to watch them and read thier posts ... Watch how thier dealings go and how they handle thier transactions ... Do a search on anyone on here that you wish to do business with and read up on them... To put your trust in the rep system or I trader to me is just foolish ... Itrader is just as broke as some say the rep system is in fact if I see red boxes in a persons rep that kind of scares me off and to me is a truer sign of someone to be weary of then what thier Itrader tells me... Threads like this are only water under the bridge something for bored poeple like us to pass the time of day.

No one wants to give bad Itrader so most everyone has good Itrader ... Or thier is nothing posted in Itrader about a bad transaction ... With the exception of a few AZ'ers on here who are not afraid to post a bad deal when it happens ... 9 times out of 10 if you post a bad Itrader about someone you are going to get a bad Itrader in return ... A retaliation Itrader for posting the truth about a bad Itrader so most people on here don't post bad transactions, then along comes a fellow AZ'er that has no idea how many bad deals the person they are doing business with truly has . Because no one reported them out of fear of retaliation Itraders... You can find faults in anything or anyone if you look hard enough and pick long enough ... None of us are perfect and we all have imperfections rather we want to admit it or not ...

So to trust in the rep system or the Itrader system is foolish ... While they are intended for good use anyone with any common sense should know not to put complete trust in either system. Most of us have been on here long enough to know the good guys from the bad ... Do your homework use good common sense and if all else fails post it on the forums and let the AZ possee take charge this thread is living proof that thier are a bunch of AZ'ers just waiting out there behind thier keyboards looking for someone, anyone to give a hard time too... Might as well make it a worthy cause like to help someone who has been seriously wronged instead of some of these threads like this one ... I love AZ and the people who post here and yes even threads like this one ... They sure help to pass the time of day ...
 
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