Bottom 10 custom cues in terms of resale value?
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In this market, basically anything that "you" are trying to sell.
What really are you trying to find out with this post???????????
Do you honestly expect someone to answer this request?
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I believe it would be the regional lesser-experienced cuemakers... must be a 1000 or more in the US... just a guess.
Let's say that they will build a custom cue for $1000. Outside of the region, a used cue of theirs might go for $250 at best. Inside the region, maybe it'll go for $350... tough to say.
Let's say that they will build a custom cue for $1000. Outside of the region, a used cue of theirs might go for $250 at best. Inside the region, maybe it'll go for $350... tough to say.
Thats a good answer. I had commissioned a local cuemaker to make a cue and it was terrrible to sell in any market.
Secondly would probably be "production" custom cues. Schon comes to mind, if you pay anything near retail, you are going to have a tough time with it.
Ken
Eddie Wheat...
Actually, since so few people can actually get one, they might be worth a fortune!
If your cue isn't made by one of the following makers then good luck getting your money back. I honestly wouldn't buy a cue from any other than these guys(unless it's just some cheap conversion then I don't care) As far as alive and contemporary makers it goes
Searing, Szamboti, Black Boar, Hercek, Southwest, Kersenbrock, Ginacue, Tad, Showman, Haley, and Schick
Probably the only cues you won't lose your butt on.
F
in retrospect i would also put James White, Paul Mottey,Manzino, JossWest, Sugartree and Scruggs, on there as well. They seem to all hold their value good too.
Searing, Szamboti, Black Boar, Hercek, Southwest, Kersenbrock, Ginacue, Tad, Showman, Haley, and Schick
Probably the only cues you won't lose your butt on.
F
in retrospect i would also put James White, Paul Mottey,Manzino, JossWest, Sugartree and Scruggs, on there as well. They seem to all hold their value good too.
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There are only 10 or so custom cues that retain close to their original value in todays market on a resale.
All others will have a significant depreciation upon resale.
Russ.....
All others will have a significant depreciation upon resale.
Russ.....
I think that this is a really bad time to ask a question like this. Unemployment in SC hit 10% just in the last few days and it's not good all over the country. Hell, unemployment checks couldn't even be issued here yesterday. Cue collectors and even those who buy cues for playability are probably holding onto their money.
I would say most mid level cues will sell for 50-75% of their value on the secondary market. Thier are exceptions of course. Sugartree would be one, and used Mason and Varney cues seem to sell for about what they would be new.
If you want to know which dont hold their value, get an idea of what a cue from someone would cost, then check the for sale section. No one here will want to put a guy down saying his cues go down in value. They might lose some sales from that.
If you want to know which dont hold their value, get an idea of what a cue from someone would cost, then check the for sale section. No one here will want to put a guy down saying his cues go down in value. They might lose some sales from that.
I would have to say Conversion Cues Sneaky Pete style (Cues made from purchased Prepared Blanks) should be at the bottom of the secondary market. They are easy to make, cost very little to make, and the market is generally flooded with them.
#1 thru #10 worst for resale ... DALE PERRY !!!
YEP, that sums it up.
pool cues
I bought a capone cue from Mike at 2004 US Open for $900.I have turned
down a grand for it several times.That is the only cue I have ever owned
that I have been offered more for it than I paid for it.
ps. I must be a bad cue trader.
I bought a capone cue from Mike at 2004 US Open for $900.I have turned
down a grand for it several times.That is the only cue I have ever owned
that I have been offered more for it than I paid for it.
ps. I must be a bad cue trader.
Non appreciated Art
I think that any cue is really only worth want someone is prepared to pay or what the minimum that the seller will sell it for if you want to buy it.
Custom cues cost more than production cues because they are made especially for a specific customer.
I have 2 custom cues made for me. I really like them for different reasons and I know the makers. The cues have meaning to me. As far as resale goes, I might be lucky to get 1/4 of my money back. But they were not made so I could sell them. Unless the buyer likes a cue balanced and weighted like I wanted, they would not be serious in buying, but I am not selling anyway.
The cost is their time and knowledge and what they feel is a fair price for their artistic work.
A friend got a Paul Mottey cue for about 150 and it looks in really good shape. Not knowing who he was or anything, I said that the cue was worth alot more and got a bargain ,and suggested to get a good case to look after it. Anyway long story short, she was shocked that another shaft was going to run close to 3 x what she paid for it.Another player offered her 1250 for it as is, she refused the sale and plays really well with it.
My point is that on 1 sale you could say a Mottey cue is not worth it's cost, yet someone else is more than prepared to pay the cost of getting one.
I also don't think it is fair to run down cuemaker / cuebuilder for a cue due to resale value alone or to rubish workmanship , unless there really is a problem with a particular cue. People make mistakes weather it be choice of materials or other circumstances and should be given a fair chance to rectify the problems. I also realise that there will always be people that won't man up to their mistakes as well.
But to name 10 to be at the bottom of the list I think is not a very good thing for any cuemaker.
I feel that it is ok to try and pick the top 10 or 20 amd make friendly competition to improve. I prefer the positve side of things instead of looking for the bad.
Neil Lickfold
I think that any cue is really only worth want someone is prepared to pay or what the minimum that the seller will sell it for if you want to buy it.
Custom cues cost more than production cues because they are made especially for a specific customer.
I have 2 custom cues made for me. I really like them for different reasons and I know the makers. The cues have meaning to me. As far as resale goes, I might be lucky to get 1/4 of my money back. But they were not made so I could sell them. Unless the buyer likes a cue balanced and weighted like I wanted, they would not be serious in buying, but I am not selling anyway.
The cost is their time and knowledge and what they feel is a fair price for their artistic work.
A friend got a Paul Mottey cue for about 150 and it looks in really good shape. Not knowing who he was or anything, I said that the cue was worth alot more and got a bargain ,and suggested to get a good case to look after it. Anyway long story short, she was shocked that another shaft was going to run close to 3 x what she paid for it.Another player offered her 1250 for it as is, she refused the sale and plays really well with it.
My point is that on 1 sale you could say a Mottey cue is not worth it's cost, yet someone else is more than prepared to pay the cost of getting one.
I also don't think it is fair to run down cuemaker / cuebuilder for a cue due to resale value alone or to rubish workmanship , unless there really is a problem with a particular cue. People make mistakes weather it be choice of materials or other circumstances and should be given a fair chance to rectify the problems. I also realise that there will always be people that won't man up to their mistakes as well.
But to name 10 to be at the bottom of the list I think is not a very good thing for any cuemaker.
I feel that it is ok to try and pick the top 10 or 20 amd make friendly competition to improve. I prefer the positve side of things instead of looking for the bad.
Neil Lickfold
Ironically enough, DP cues may close to the upper tier now wrt resale in this market.....
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This is very true.
fair assesment of "value"
I think each cue sale is an individually unique purchase(with the exception of productions, they all have sticker prices). Each cue maker would probably sell a certain cue for X amount to person A and Y amount to person B. On the flip side, person A would pay X amount for said cue and person B would pay Y amount for the same cue.
As for holding thier value, you would have to ask yourself.... value to who?
I think each cue sale is an individually unique purchase(with the exception of productions, they all have sticker prices). Each cue maker would probably sell a certain cue for X amount to person A and Y amount to person B. On the flip side, person A would pay X amount for said cue and person B would pay Y amount for the same cue.
As for holding thier value, you would have to ask yourself.... value to who?