I think I will play an intentional. :angel2:
three foul technicality
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I think I will play an intentional. :angel2:
I think player's are "used" to hearing "you're on two" right after their second foul. I say it, however, as they approach the table on their next turn. They sit in their chairs, thinking, "oh, I guess she forgot, lucky me" then I surprise them with remembering later. 
Even if they can see the next shot, I still say "you're on two" in case they scratch or miscue.
The bad thing is if enough time has elapsed, then sometimes you have to explain to them how they got on two because they don't remember and they tend to look dumb founded and confused, trying to remember their shots. That's the sucky part. Ugh! Because I have to recall and try and use my feeble brain cells.
Even if they can see the next shot, I still say "you're on two" in case they scratch or miscue.
The bad thing is if enough time has elapsed, then sometimes you have to explain to them how they got on two because they don't remember and they tend to look dumb founded and confused, trying to remember their shots. That's the sucky part. Ugh! Because I have to recall and try and use my feeble brain cells.
I think player's are "used" to hearing "you're on two" right after their second foul. I say it, however, as they approach the table on their next turn. They sit in their chairs, thinking, "oh, I guess she forgot, lucky me" then I surprise them with remembering later.
Even if they can see the next shot, I still say "you're on two" in case they scratch or miscue.
The bad thing is if enough time has elapsed, then sometimes you have to explain to them how they got on two because they don't remember and they tend to look dumb founded and confused, trying to remember their shots. That's the sucky part. Ugh! Because I have to recall and try and use my feeble brain cells.
Oh, you're on two.
The only time I was ever 3-fouled was in straight pool league and it was against Babe Thompson. I don't recall him saying anything to me on my way back to the table but I knew and accepted my penalty and rebroke. It was super bad timing for me cause at the time we both only needed 10 balls then all of the sudden I needed 26
BVal
P.S. am I on two now as well?
The only time I was ever 3-fouled was in straight pool league and it was against Babe Thompson. I don't recall him saying anything to me on my way back to the table but I knew and accepted my penalty and rebroke. It was super bad timing for me cause at the time we both only needed 10 balls then all of the sudden I needed 26
BVal
P.S. am I on two now as well?
I will three foul against any of the straight pool monsters a billion times before I give them an open shot. 18 points is nothing compared to what they'll run.
Yes, you're on two.
Even though I have a fear of three fouling in this thread I will post anyways
My third fould was less than an 1/8" from being legal and he would have been locked in the stack.
BVal
As far as I'm concerned, I'm on 2!
I think the rules committees should really take a better look at how to handle the foul warning. Any change to the rules should really aim to REDUCE the number of arguments if anything. This change is just setting a trap to cause more problems than it solves, especially when it causes people to start making accusations about dishonesty and lack of integrity.
Precisely. I'm outta here. I'll see you all tomorrow. BTW, everybody is on two.
Well since you're running out, I guess we start on zero next time.
Have a good one. 
:angry:Ok, now you've pissed me off!!!:angry: I'm unscrewing my cue and quitting this tournament!!
ROFL I'm sticking to ring games, no safeties allowed.:thumbup:
You can't quit I bought you in the calcutta!!!!!!!!!!!:angry:Ok, now you've pissed me off!!!:angry: I'm unscrewing my cue and quitting this tournament!!
BVal
the thing i'd like to point out that i think gets overlooked is this......
people many times kinda assume.... well, if he tries to weasle his way out of the three foul rule, even though everyone knows he was notified, well, he's a cheater and a lowlife etc.
what i say is that very well may be true if you are playing in a league, or a nice little social tournament. the problem, as i see it, there is a big difference between people playing for thousands of dollars (and potentially for their rent) and using the actual rules to their advantage, to those who are manipulating the rules in a league or something.
put another way, i heard ronnie allen once had an opponent who shot for the wrong pocket (ie he shot as if ronnies pocket was his). as it turned out, ronnies opponent made a bad shot and didn't leave ronnie anything to shoot at. so ronnie intentionally pretended he was shooting for the wrong hole as well. the guy comes back to the table, shoots for the wrong hole again, leaves ronnie strait in and ronnie says "you shot for the wrong hole" and runs out. do you see how if you do this in a league it has a much diffenent context than if you do it playing for thousands of dollars?
i not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with anybody really; i think everybody has brought up good points. i was just pointing out that i dont think people consider the above aspect of it all.
people many times kinda assume.... well, if he tries to weasle his way out of the three foul rule, even though everyone knows he was notified, well, he's a cheater and a lowlife etc.
what i say is that very well may be true if you are playing in a league, or a nice little social tournament. the problem, as i see it, there is a big difference between people playing for thousands of dollars (and potentially for their rent) and using the actual rules to their advantage, to those who are manipulating the rules in a league or something.
put another way, i heard ronnie allen once had an opponent who shot for the wrong pocket (ie he shot as if ronnies pocket was his). as it turned out, ronnies opponent made a bad shot and didn't leave ronnie anything to shoot at. so ronnie intentionally pretended he was shooting for the wrong hole as well. the guy comes back to the table, shoots for the wrong hole again, leaves ronnie strait in and ronnie says "you shot for the wrong hole" and runs out. do you see how if you do this in a league it has a much diffenent context than if you do it playing for thousands of dollars?
i not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with anybody really; i think everybody has brought up good points. i was just pointing out that i dont think people consider the above aspect of it all.
If you're Ronnie Allen, you can get away with that sort of thing. the rest of us would probably get our asses kicked...:grin::grin::grin:
The 3 ball foul happened to Danny Harriman. Start watching around :37 seconds. This interview also explains the 3 foul rule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObKicYUPUd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObKicYUPUd4
Could you imagine if in a baseball game, the pitcher had to inform the hitter he was on two strikes?
If you watch Harriman in this video, you can tell HE KNOWS he got away with one. I mean, HE KNOWS HE WAS ON TWO FOULS! The intent of the rule he cited is to make sure the shooter is aware of his situation, it's not to be used as a scapegoat. He keeps saying tournaments need to have referees for each match. For what? To protect against players like him? Really sad day for pool, I have to say.
Agree.
And do you find it more than a little ironic that DH uses JS as an examole to bolster his case.
NO integrity.
MM
And do you find it more than a little ironic that DH uses JS as an examole to bolster his case.
NO integrity.MM
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And do you find it a little more than ironic that DH uses JS as an examole to bolster his case.
MM
I really am sick about this. He even conducts an interview afterward and admits what he did. I really wish Samm Diep gave a tougher interview. It's annoying how warm and fuzzy these interviews typically are. As a player, Diep should have been able to relate to this and could have said, "Wow, so you knew you were on two fouls, playing an international player who is not fluent in English and yet you get out of a loss by calling him on a language technicality? So um, step on any babies lately?"