clip of Mike Davis' stroke?

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Just playing around. As usual me and the pendulum stroke don't get along just right. Still looking at various modifications and other strokes.

The thread about Mike Davis and the mention he had an unusual stroke using the bigger muscles of his arm made me curious. Anybody know where I can find a clip showing his stroke?

Thanks,
Hu
 
what?

Monstermash said:
Is this a joke?
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Ragging on Mika a bit is of course a joke. He does look mighty small next to Mike Davis.

Being less than pleased with the pendulum stroke is no joke. Been playing with it for several years since I came back to pool and it has never felt really comfortable. I have never came close to getting the kind of touch I once had on a cue ball either. The two things may not be tied together, then again they might be. A shooter needs to be comfortable with their stroke, whatever it is.

Hu
 
Back in 2003 at Champion's pool room in Laurel, Maryland, I spoke to a local cue-maker about the subject of "double fulcrum." I had never heard of the term until he brought it up.

The cue-maker went on defining what a good stroke is and how double fulcrum comes into play. He said very few pool players have this "double fulcrum" in their stroke, and the ones who do, have the "prettiest stroke in the business" because of it.

The cue-maker started talking about dominant eye, squirt, deflection, type of wood used in the shaft (apparently the grainier, the better), and the extremely rare leather used to make tips, said leather only found between the shoulder blades of a water buffalo. This cue-maker said that this unique leather, only found in a very small area between the shoulder blades of a water buffalo, is the best tip material you can find. Of course, that could be the topic of another thread. :p

I think the saying "different strokes for different strokes" is key in this thread. What works for Mike Davis may not work for another player, but as long as he's winning tournaments and playing well, Mike Davis has a pretty stroke! ;)
 
yeah, there is this other guy with a funny stroke that did OK

Yeah JAM, I seem to remember another guy with a funny stroke that did OK. I'm talking about Allen Hopkins of course! :D :D :D

I watched some of the video with Bustamonte last night. Another funny looking stroke when folks think that only one can work. Finally some of the most beautiful strokes in pool were from fifty or sixty years ago, none I am referring to being the pendulum.

Can't remember if it was Cisero's or whose but BlackJack directed me to a video of somebody's stroke that was hypnotic. A gorgeous stroke it would take years to learn but it was magic.

Hu


JAM said:
Back in 2003 at Champion's pool room in Laurel, Maryland, I spoke to a local cue-maker about the subject of "double fulcrum." I had never heard of the term until he brought it up.

The cue-maker went on defining what a good stroke is and how double fulcrum comes into play. He said very few pool players have this "double fulcrum" in their stroke, and the ones who do, have the "prettiest stroke in the business" because of it.

The cue-maker started talking about dominant eye, squirt, deflection, type of wood used in the shaft (apparently the grainier, the better), and the extremely rare leather used to make tips, said leather only found between the shoulder blades of a water buffalo. This cue-maker said that this unique leather, only found in a very small area between the shoulder blades of a water buffalo, is the best tip material you can find. Of course, that could be the topic of another thread. :p

I think the saying "different strokes for different strokes" is key in this thread. What works for Mike Davis may not work for another player, but as long as he's winning tournaments and playing well, Mike Davis has a pretty stroke! ;)
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JAM said:
Back in 2003 at Champion's pool room in Laurel, Maryland, I spoke to a local cue-maker about the subject of "double fulcrum." I had never heard of the term until he brought it up.

The cue-maker went on defining what a good stroke is and how double fulcrum comes into play. He said very few pool players have this "double fulcrum" in their stroke, and the ones who do, have the "prettiest stroke in the business" because of it.
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JAM, is it possible that the "double fulcrum" the cue maker was talking about is the elbow and wrist, whereas Mike uses the shoulder?
 
Impact Blue said:
Now I'm really curious...subscribing!
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Hello,

Would someone provide me a link to this video. I'm interested in other methods of stroke, like Xiao-ting Pan's delivery. This double fulcrum thing has sparked my interest, anyone know more about this?

J.A.W.
 
AtLarge said:
JAM, is it possible that the "double fulcrum" the cue maker was talking about is the elbow and wrist, whereas Mike uses the shoulder?
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Here's one link about it, and this is actually the cuemaker I was referring to: http://www.blackboarcustomcues.com/design/default.asp?CTID=69&IID=

From what I could ascertain, during the movement of stroking a ball, the shoulder pivots right as the stroke arm is moving forward, but before the the arm continues moving forward, the wrist will pivot. The two pivoting movements occur at very precise moments during the stroke as the arm is following through, and it is this movement, the double fulcrom, that allows the cue-stick to move in a completely straightforward fashion.

According to the cue-maker, Efren, Sueye Ree (local lady pro in my area), and my boyfriend have this double fulcrum in their stroke, but not everybody has it. He believes the double fulcrum will enable the stroke to be the straightest.

Double fulcrum is the combination of the two pivot points occurring precisely at the right time during the swing, shoulder pivot right before the wrist pivot, enabling a straight-as-possible stroke without any unintentional english being applied to the cue-ball.

My boyfriend's unorthodox side-arm stroke, different than Efren's, apparently has the double fulcrum thing going. When he begins to stroke forward, the shoulder pivots and, before the cue-stick hits the cue-ball, the wrist will pivot. The combination of the two pivots occurring at the appropriate times within the stroke is the double fulcrum.

Here is a picture of my boyfriend stroking the ball. Does he look pissed at that cueball or what?! :grin-square:
 

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JAM said:
Here's ...my boyfriend stroking the ball. Does he look pissed at that cueball or what?! :grin-square:
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I now see Is serious aboiut his desire to return as a cueball and give us all bad rolls...If looks could kill!
 
JAM said:
Back in 2003 at Champion's pool room in Laurel, Maryland, I spoke to a local cue-maker about the subject of "double fulcrum."
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For those in the DC/MD/NoVA area, Doug Sharp teaches both the pendulum (single fulcrum) and the double fulcrum.

Doug's in Olney, MD. Good guy, good coach!

His phone number is on the Tiger Tour/Planet Pool home page planet-pool.com. If you don't see it there (scroll down, it's on the right side of the page past Monster Energy drinks), feel free to PM me.

Mitch
 
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