Ball Marks on Cloth
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Ball Marks !
Well I have read a lot of posts about 860 HR haveing to do with ball marks so I went straight to the horses mouth !!!. Simonis said that the (HR) stands for (Humidity Resistant) and it was all to deal with high levels of humidity when cloth tends to relax. I did not notice any ball mark reduction with it but it does roll somewhat faster than standard 860. This is just what I noticed. Buy the way Dartman I have learned a lot from your posts. Thanks for all your help!!!! "C.D."
Well I have read a lot of posts about 860 HR haveing to do with ball marks so I went straight to the horses mouth !!!. Simonis said that the (HR) stands for (Humidity Resistant) and it was all to deal with high levels of humidity when cloth tends to relax. I did not notice any ball mark reduction with it but it does roll somewhat faster than standard 860. This is just what I noticed. Buy the way Dartman I have learned a lot from your posts. Thanks for all your help!!!! "C.D."
No worries - glad I could help.
I checked the cloth in that pic about a month after it was installed and altho there were ball marks they were barely noticeable. Now 7 months later it looks pretty beat up - but probably typical for a commercial setting. IMO I doubt there was a lot of table maintenance done. If they had I'd guess the cloth wouldn't look like it does now.
Simonis always had an HR (Humidity Resistant) cloth that was not a standard style available here in the US.
The same cloth is now available here with the same HR moniker but referred to as High Resistance.
Now whether they changed the sheering or some other aspect of the mfg process on the humidity cloth to get the high resistance cloth is probably not something that will be disclosed. Who did you speak with at Simonis?
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Ball marks (burns) are caused by friction between ball and cloth.
Aramith addresses the issue. Check the paragraph on burn-spot resistant here -
http://www.saluc.com/html/billiard/index.php?idlien=4
While a good ball set helps minimize burn marks the heat and friction are still present - resulting in the cloth marks (burns).
It's been my experience that if you damp wipe the marks frequently it helps make the marks less noticeable.
I've had my 860 HR for a couple months now and I believe it's more resistant to ball burns/marks (but then I want to believe it).
I do wipe the table with a damp cloth about once or twice a week and I do wipe the burn marks a little extra as I'm cleaning. I vacumn about once a week. I was told to have my wiping cloth only very lightly damp... not wet.
I follow Glen's instructions. I'm afraid if I don't he might come back and 'splain things to me more clearly.
In my experience, Quick Clean and similar products help make burn marks less noticeable also.
You need to
Clean the balls regularly - dirty balls are going to leave burn marks no matter what cloth you have. I have 860 HR and have a ball washer at home. Clean balls = less friction = less burn marks.
Clean the balls regularly - dirty balls are going to leave burn marks no matter what cloth you have. I have 860 HR and have a ball washer at home. Clean balls = less friction = less burn marks.
Good point - and part of table maintenance.
I didn't post the picture of the drink stains on that same table or the yellowed and marked up red circle cue ball.
Maybe the best point is that without good maintenance it doesn't matter what cloth you use -
it will wind up looking like crap.