My Reflections on the World 14.1

sjm

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Ok, just got back from five days of sweating the wonderful straight pool event. Kudos to Dragon Promotions and Comet Billiards for making it all happen.

The Pre-tournament Chatter
It was a bit distressing when far too many focused on who wasn't coming rather than who was. Still, I won't suggest that having all four medalists and six of the eight quarterfinalists of 2008 (Niels Feijen, Francisco Bustamante, Jasmin Ouschan, Nick VanDenBerg, John Schmidt, Huidji See) absent wasn't a little disappointing. WPA #1 ranked Darren Appleton, who bested Thorsten Hohmann in the Derby City 14.1 event, was also absent. Also, as noted by BillBOK, 2009 European 14.1 Champion Dmitri Jungo wasn't in the field. Among the American absentees was Danny Harriman, winner of the straight pool event at Derby City (in which he beat out a field that included Appleton, Hohmann and Schmidt), so, arguably, America's two best shots at a medal, Schmidt and Harriman, were out of action.

Still, even without these proven stars, the event offered a very strong field.

The Play of the Americans
Even without Schmidt and Harriman, the Americans displayed some solid world-class 14.1. Archer was the best of the American contingent. Though his play was inconsistent in the round robin, he got stronger and stronger as the event went on, and earned a bronze medal. Also making a deep run was Tony Robles, who led eventual champion Stefan Cohen by over 100 balls in the quarterinal before Cohen made two big runs to win it. The biggest surprise was Charlie Williams, who, despite his contention that he isn't a straight pooler at all, made some big runs and got as far as the quarterfinals before falling to Archer. Allen Hopkins, Mike Davis, Corey Deuel, Jim Gottier, Stevie Moore, Bob Madenjian and Earl Herring were all among those finishing 9/16.

Sadly, Max Eberle, winner of his group in round robin, ran out of gas in the second round and failed to reach single elimination. Of the other Americans who failed to reach the single elimination, Steve Lipsky was the most impressive, and my guess is that we'll see this truly outstanding world-class player in the single elimination round of this event soon enough.

The Dominant Play of the Europeans
I'm sure that by speaking in very glowing terms of Europe's effort, I'll upset some Americans, for which I'll apologize in advance, but the truth must be told.

Europe's contingent, as best as I can remember, had just seven players - Stefan Cohen (France), Mika Immonen (Finland), Oliver Ortmann (Germany), Gerda Hofstatter (Austria), Ralf Eckert (Germany), Johnni Fulcher (Scotland) and Thorsten Hohmann (Germany).

Not one of the Europeans was beaten in the "final 16 elimination round" by a non-European" (Hohmann was eliminated by Immonen in the quarterfinal, Fulcher lost to Ortmann in the quarterfinal, Ortmann lost to Immonen in the semis, and Immonen lost in the final to Cohen), although Eckert, who had run 100 in round robin play, was denied a spot in the single elimination when New York's own Jim Gottier produced a fine effort on Thursday night.

Four of the seven Europeans had at least one 100+ run, and, as a group, I believe they had nine different 100+ ball runs, with Ortmann taking down the high run prize.

For the fourth year in a row, three of the four semifinalists and both finalists were European. So, even without Feijen, VanDenBerg, See, Ouschan, and Appleton, the European contingent owned this event the way they always have.

Well played, Europe.

Significant Other(s)
OK, just two guys I can think of that were neither American nor European. One waa Zaid Thwieb of Jordan, who played creditably, including a win over Max Eberle to earn a spot in single elimination. Zaid finished 9/16. The other was Israeli Zion Zvi, who showed a lot of game finishing 17th.

In Conclusion
So, to sum, the field could have been stronger, but it was still very, very strong. Europe dominated for the fourth straight year, and the Americans played some superb 14.1, too. It was a great exhibition of 14.1 by all, and I was honored to have been there to see it up close.
 
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Nice summary, as always.

Btw; Isn't Zion Zvi considered being from Israel in the Middle East? He has just moved to USA, I believe, only 2 or 3 months ago.
 
You're right about Zion. I just corrected my post.

Finally I was able to correct one of your posts ;) lol

I hope you had a good time over there.

I was surprised by Stephan Cohen (spelled like that, btw, 1 more error on you). I knew he was a very good 14-1 player, with runs of 295 and 344, but I didn't believe he would be able to beat Mika in the final.

Well played by the frenchman. I didn't see the final myself, but I understand that Stephan got a place in the Americans heart both by winning from behind, beating Mika (lol) and by honoring Danny D for his win.

Btw, by watching the stream I have to say that Danny D is probably the most knowledgable 14-1 commentator I have ever heard. He was FANTASTIC during this week, and called most shots, misses and breakballs way in advance.
 
It was an amazing come-from-behind win for Cohen - he was down at one point about 130 points. He showed tons of heart in that game.

Charlie Williams said that Stephan had booked his return flight to France for Friday night (I think) because he expected to be eliminated before Saturday.

After Stephan sunk the final ball you could tell he was pretty overcome with emotion, and his hugging Danny D was such a great moment. Mika has won many tournaments and will win many more. It was great to see the underdog achieve his dream.

Who says straight pool can't be exciting?
 
Ok, just got back from five days of sweating the wonderful straight pool event. Kudos to Dragon Promotions and Comet Billiards for making it all happen.

The Pre-tournament Chatter
It was a bit distressing when far too many focused on who wasn't coming rather than who was. Still, I won't suggest that having all four medalists and six of the eight quarterfinalists of 2008 (Niels Feijen, Francisco Bustamante, Jasmin Ouschan, Nick VanDenBerg, John Schmidt, Huidji See) wasn't a little disappointing. WPA #1 ranked Darren Appleton, who bested Thorsten Hohmann in the Derby City 14.1 event, was also absent. Danny Harriman, winner of the straight pool event at Derby City (in which he beat out a field that included Appleton, Hohmann and Schmidt) didn't play either, so, arguably, America's two best shots at a medal, Schmidt and Harriman, were out of action.

Still, even without these proven stars, the event offered a very strong field.

The Play of the Americans
Even without Schmidt and Harriman, the Americans displayed some solid world-class 14.1. Archer was the best of the American contingent. Though his play was inconsistent in the round robin, he got stronger and stronger as the event went on, and earned a bronze medal. Also making a deep run was Tony Robles, who led eventual champion Stefan Cohen by over 100 balls in the quarterinal before Cohen made two big runs to win it. The biggest surprise was Charlie Williams, who, despite his contention that he isn't a straight pooler at all, made some big runs and got as far as the quarterfinals before falling to Archer. Allen Hopkins, Mike Davis, Corey Deuel, Jim Gottier, Stevie Moore, and Earl Herring were all among those finishing 9/16.

Sadly, Max Eberle, winner of his group in round robin, ran out of gas in the second round and failed to reach single elimination. Of the other Americans who failed to reach the single elimination, Steve Lipsky was the most impressive, and my guess is that we'll see this truly outstanding world-class player in the single elimination round of this event soon enough.

The Dominant Play of the Europeans
I'm sure that by speaking in very glowing terms of Europe's effort, I'll upset some Americans, for which I'll apologize in advance, but the truth must be told.

Europe's contingent, as best as I can remember, had just seven players - Stefan Cohen (France), Mika Immonen (Finland), Oliver Ortmann (Germany), Gerda Hofstatter (Austria), Ralf Eckert (Germany), Johnni Fulcher (Scotland) and Thorsten Hohmann (Germany).

Not one of the Europeans was beaten in the "final 16 elimination round" by a non-European" (Hohmann was eliminated by Immonen in the quarterfinal, Fulcher lost to Ortmann in the quarterfinal, Ortmann lost to Immonen in the semis, and Immonen lost in the final to Cohen), although Eckert, who had run 100 in round robin play, was denied a spot in the single elimination when New York's own Jim Gottier produced a fine effort on Thursday night.

Four of the seven Europeans had at least one 100+ run, and, as a group, I believe they had nine different 100+ ball runs, with Ortmann taking down the high run prize.

For the fourth year in a row, three of the four semifinalists and both finalists were European. So, even without Feijen, VanDenBerg, See, Ouschan, and Appleton, the European contingent owned this event the way they always have.

Well played, Europe.

Significant Other(s)
OK, just two guys I can think of was neither American nor European. One waa Zaid Thwieb of Jordan, who played creditably, including a win over Max Eberle to earn a spot in single elimination. Zaid finished 9/16. The other was Israeli Zion Zvi, who showed a lot of game finishing 17th.

In Conclusion
So, to sum, the field could have been stronger, but it was still very, very strong. Europe dominated for the fourth straight year, and the Americans played some superb 14.1, too. It was a great exhibition of 14.1 by all, and I was honored to have been there to see it up close.

Good job SJM and nice recap. Great event.
How are players invited and did they have to pay an entry fee?
Could any player pay an entry fee and play in the event?
Or only by invitation (private party)?
Thx again, I really enjoyed watching. The last matches were really full of suspense and the commentary as Roy mentioned was fantastic. Bill and marsha Haley along with accustats have to be thanked for their efforts.
 
Btw, by watching the stream I have to say that Danny D is probably the most knowledgable 14-1 commentator I have ever heard. He was FANTASTIC during this week, and called most shots, misses and breakballs way in advance.

For years, in posts on this subject, I have contended that Danny D is the best commentator in pool. At very least, he's my favorite.
 
It was an amazing come-from-behind win for Cohen - he was down at one point about 130 points. He showed tons of heart in that game.

Charlie Williams said that Stephan had booked his return flight to France for Friday night (I think) because he expected to be eliminated before Saturday.

After Stephan sunk the final ball you could tell he was pretty overcome with emotion, and his hugging Danny D was such a great moment. Mika has won many tournaments and will win many more. It was great to see the underdog achieve his dream.

Who says straight pool can't be exciting?

LOL

That's awesome if he booked his flight for Friday :D :D
 
Just for the story, the 2009 european straight pool champion, Dimitri Jungo from Switzerland, who had to beat Oliver in the semi and Niels in the final to hold the title wasn't here...:(
 
Charlie Williams said that Stephan had booked his return flight to France for Friday night (I think) because he expected to be eliminated before Saturday.

Stephan had a New York - Manilla flight booked because he plays for France next week in the World Cup of Pool. So he pushed back his flight. His girlfriend though, had to leave for her flight back to France, and she had to leave during the semi against Archer when Stephan was on 150. She got the result by text at the airport :smile:
 
Ok, just got back from five days of sweating the wonderful straight pool event. Kudos to Dragon Promotions and Comet Billiards for making it all happen.

The Pre-tournament Chatter
It was a bit distressing when far too many focused on who wasn't coming rather than who was. Still, I won't suggest that having all four medalists and six of the eight quarterfinalists of 2008 (Niels Feijen, Francisco Bustamante, Jasmin Ouschan, Nick VanDenBerg, John Schmidt, Huidji See) absent wasn't a little disappointing. WPA #1 ranked Darren Appleton, who bested Thorsten Hohmann in the Derby City 14.1 event, was also absent. Danny Harriman, winner of the straight pool event at Derby City (in which he beat out a field that included Appleton, Hohmann and Schmidt) didn't play either, so, arguably, America's two best shots at a medal, Schmidt and Harriman, were out of action.

Still, even without these proven stars, the event offered a very strong field.

The Play of the Americans
Even without Schmidt and Harriman, the Americans displayed some solid world-class 14.1. Archer was the best of the American contingent. Though his play was inconsistent in the round robin, he got stronger and stronger as the event went on, and earned a bronze medal. Also making a deep run was Tony Robles, who led eventual champion Stefan Cohen by over 100 balls in the quarterinal before Cohen made two big runs to win it. The biggest surprise was Charlie Williams, who, despite his contention that he isn't a straight pooler at all, made some big runs and got as far as the quarterfinals before falling to Archer. Allen Hopkins, Mike Davis, Corey Deuel, Jim Gottier, Stevie Moore, and Earl Herring were all among those finishing 9/16.

Sadly, Max Eberle, winner of his group in round robin, ran out of gas in the second round and failed to reach single elimination. Of the other Americans who failed to reach the single elimination, Steve Lipsky was the most impressive, and my guess is that we'll see this truly outstanding world-class player in the single elimination round of this event soon enough.

The Dominant Play of the Europeans
I'm sure that by speaking in very glowing terms of Europe's effort, I'll upset some Americans, for which I'll apologize in advance, but the truth must be told.

Europe's contingent, as best as I can remember, had just seven players - Stefan Cohen (France), Mika Immonen (Finland), Oliver Ortmann (Germany), Gerda Hofstatter (Austria), Ralf Eckert (Germany), Johnni Fulcher (Scotland) and Thorsten Hohmann (Germany).

Not one of the Europeans was beaten in the "final 16 elimination round" by a non-European" (Hohmann was eliminated by Immonen in the quarterfinal, Fulcher lost to Ortmann in the quarterfinal, Ortmann lost to Immonen in the semis, and Immonen lost in the final to Cohen), although Eckert, who had run 100 in round robin play, was denied a spot in the single elimination when New York's own Jim Gottier produced a fine effort on Thursday night.

Four of the seven Europeans had at least one 100+ run, and, as a group, I believe they had nine different 100+ ball runs, with Ortmann taking down the high run prize.

For the fourth year in a row, three of the four semifinalists and both finalists were European. So, even without Feijen, VanDenBerg, See, Ouschan, and Appleton, the European contingent owned this event the way they always have.

Well played, Europe.

Significant Other(s)
OK, just two guys I can think of that were neither American nor European. One waa Zaid Thwieb of Jordan, who played creditably, including a win over Max Eberle to earn a spot in single elimination. Zaid finished 9/16. The other was Israeli Zion Zvi, who showed a lot of game finishing 17th.

In Conclusion
So, to sum, the field could have been stronger, but it was still very, very strong. Europe dominated for the fourth straight year, and the Americans played some superb 14.1, too. It was a great exhibition of 14.1 by all, and I was honored to have been there to see it up close.


Most Europeans didn't come because of the WPA sanctioning that was gone. It's the only way for most to get reimbursed from their federation because they play a federal event.
Also, the prize money (but that's the same thing since WPA sanctioning was lost partially due to "low" prize money), and proximity of the World Cup of Pool.

Thorsten, Mika and Stephan are the only three players to play both events back to back. Let's see if it does them great :smile:


The European dominance could be due to the fact that all countries still carry a national 14/1 championship, and we also play it in the European Championship and Teams Championships. I think that the average European plays more competitive straight pool than an American, but I could be wrong.

It's a shame that the tournament suffered from some players not showing up and WPA sanctioning gone, because if Dragon was to stop the event, there simply would not be any 14/1 world event left. Kudos to Dragon for hanging on, I hope they find an arrangement with WPA to put it back on track as the "official" World title in 2010.
 
Just for the story, the 2009 european straight pool champion, Dimitri Jungo from Switzerland, who had to beat Oliver in the semi and Niels in the final to hold the title wasn't here...:(

Thanks. My post revised to reflect this.
 
sjm,
I am very pleased that you took the time to post these observations (though I am EXTREMELY jealous that I was not able to attend also).

There is a noticeable category absent: Old school play.

I'm fairly certain no one will accuse Mika Immonen of being an "old-schooler"; but what about Cohen - has any of Danny D's old school philosophy rubbed off on him? Who were the players with the most economical patterns? It is such players that the amateur player should seek to emulate - we may not have the firepower of the great shotmakers; but by playing lower risk pool, we may maximize our results.
 
sjm,
I am very pleased that you took the time to post these observations (though I am EXTREMELY jealous that I was not able to attend also).

There is a noticeable category absent: Old school play.

I'm fairly certain no one will accuse Mika Immonen of being an "old-schooler"; but what about Cohen - has any of Danny D's old school philosophy rubbed off on him? Who were the players with the most economical patterns? It is such players that the amateur player should seek to emulate - we may not have the firepower of the great shotmakers; but by playing lower risk pool, we may maximize our results.

Perhaps the best example of old school 14.1 was offered by Allen Hopkins in his 109 ball run to come from way behind against Dan Barouty on Thursday night. Though far from his skills of times past, Allen still runs balls very cleverly, and his elegance as a technician was on full display in this run.

Stephan Cohen did, at times, display quite a bit of technical knowledge. In his semifinal against Archer, in the very first rack of the match, he was careful to preserve a break shot and a key ball on both sides of the rack. This precaution proved critical when he badly missed shape on a five ball, which forced him to use up the key ball on one side of the rack prematurely. He simply switched break shots and his run continued into the next rack. The old schoolers would have been proud.
 
sjm, Were there a lot of spectators in the pool room watching the tournament over the past week?

The crowds were just adequate through Thursday, but many attended the last three sessions of the event (Friday night, Saturday day, Saturday night). Saturday's matches on the TV table were standing room only affairs, and the crowd was very energetic and enthusiastic.

The semifinal between Ortmann and Immonen was a greatly anticipated clash of straight pool superstars. For me personally, the last time I got this excited about a 14.1 matchup I watched live was when Nick Varner and Mike Sigel hooked up in 1981 to decide the PPPA World 14.1 championship.
 
There is a noticeable category absent: Old school play.

While I am biased anyone who watched the Barrouty-Mathews match friday night got to see some old school play as well as Grady vs Cha which was a knowledge vs Shotmaking leading to a 100-92 victory for Cha when noone expected Grady to have such a good showing against her...Hopkins old school play was a joy to watch as well.


Ortman while pulling some great shots tended to keep everything small and precise. I dont think he made a single shot that didnt hit the center of the pocket.

R
 
It was a great tournament, and I'd like to add, an outstanding job done by Pat Fleming and his Accu-Stats crew to broadcast a crisp and clear professional stream. :thumbup:
 
Ok, just got back from five days of sweating the wonderful straight pool event. Kudos to Dragon Promotions and Comet Billiards for making it all happen.

The Pre-tournament Chatter
It was a bit distressing when far too many focused on who wasn't coming rather than who was. Still, I won't suggest that having all four medalists and six of the eight quarterfinalists of 2008 (Niels Feijen, Francisco Bustamante, Jasmin Ouschan, Nick VanDenBerg, John Schmidt, Huidji See) absent wasn't a little disappointing. WPA #1 ranked Darren Appleton, who bested Thorsten Hohmann in the Derby City 14.1 event, was also absent. Also, as noted by BillBOK, 2009 European 14.1 Champion Dmitri Jungo wasn't in the field. Among the American absentees was Danny Harriman, winner of the straight pool event at Derby City (in which he beat out a field that included Appleton, Hohmann and Schmidt), so, arguably, America's two best shots at a medal, Schmidt and Harriman, were out of action.

Still, even without these proven stars, the event offered a very strong field.

The Play of the Americans
Even without Schmidt and Harriman, the Americans displayed some solid world-class 14.1. Archer was the best of the American contingent. Though his play was inconsistent in the round robin, he got stronger and stronger as the event went on, and earned a bronze medal. Also making a deep run was Tony Robles, who led eventual champion Stefan Cohen by over 100 balls in the quarterinal before Cohen made two big runs to win it. The biggest surprise was Charlie Williams, who, despite his contention that he isn't a straight pooler at all, made some big runs and got as far as the quarterfinals before falling to Archer. Allen Hopkins, Mike Davis, Corey Deuel, Jim Gottier, Stevie Moore, Bob Madenjian and Earl Herring were all among those finishing 9/16.

Sadly, Max Eberle, winner of his group in round robin, ran out of gas in the second round and failed to reach single elimination. Of the other Americans who failed to reach the single elimination, Steve Lipsky was the most impressive, and my guess is that we'll see this truly outstanding world-class player in the single elimination round of this event soon enough.

The Dominant Play of the Europeans
I'm sure that by speaking in very glowing terms of Europe's effort, I'll upset some Americans, for which I'll apologize in advance, but the truth must be told.

Europe's contingent, as best as I can remember, had just seven players - Stefan Cohen (France), Mika Immonen (Finland), Oliver Ortmann (Germany), Gerda Hofstatter (Austria), Ralf Eckert (Germany), Johnni Fulcher (Scotland) and Thorsten Hohmann (Germany).

Not one of the Europeans was beaten in the "final 16 elimination round" by a non-European" (Hohmann was eliminated by Immonen in the quarterfinal, Fulcher lost to Ortmann in the quarterfinal, Ortmann lost to Immonen in the semis, and Immonen lost in the final to Cohen), although Eckert, who had run 100 in round robin play, was denied a spot in the single elimination when New York's own Jim Gottier produced a fine effort on Thursday night.

Four of the seven Europeans had at least one 100+ run, and, as a group, I believe they had nine different 100+ ball runs, with Ortmann taking down the high run prize.

For the fourth year in a row, three of the four semifinalists and both finalists were European. So, even without Feijen, VanDenBerg, See, Ouschan, and Appleton, the European contingent owned this event the way they always have.

Well played, Europe.

Significant Other(s)
OK, just two guys I can think of that were neither American nor European. One waa Zaid Thwieb of Jordan, who played creditably, including a win over Max Eberle to earn a spot in single elimination. Zaid finished 9/16. The other was Israeli Zion Zvi, who showed a lot of game finishing 17th.

In Conclusion
So, to sum, the field could have been stronger, but it was still very, very strong. Europe dominated for the fourth straight year, and the Americans played some superb 14.1, too. It was a great exhibition of 14.1 by all, and I was honored to have been there to see it up close.


Great field trip report. Thanks, SJM.

Lou Figueroa
 
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