US Open gambling updates - Day 2

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Tomoo Takano lost to Lee Van Corteza in a race to 15, 10ball.
I am not sure of the spot but I think he lost $1,000. Maybe someone else can clarify.

The match of the night was Ronnie Alcano vs. Chris Bartram.
The game was a race to 21 in 10-ball with Chris getting the called 7 & 9.

Final score 21-19 in favor of Alcano...for $3,000.

Match started at 1:00 a.m. and ended at 6:30 a.m.
 
Thanks for the update.

I hope these U.S. Open contenders don't burn up all their energy in the all-night action matches and save a little for winning the championship.

Anybody who's got a shot at winning the U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship should be putting all of their efforts into, well, winning.

Action matches and money come and go, but the title of champion lasts much longer than that cheese that, sooner or later, will exchange hands again and again and again. :grin-square:
 
inside_english said:
Tomoo Takano lost to Lee Van Corteza in a race to 15, 10ball.
I am not sure of the spot but I think he lost $1,000. Maybe someone else can clarify.

The match of the night was Ronnie Alcano vs. Chris Bartram.
The game was a race to 21 in 10-ball with Chris getting the called 7 & 9.

Final score 21-19 in favor of Alcano...for $3,000.

Match started at 1:00 a.m. and ended at 6:30 a.m.
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Argh, wish I would have got this info before the match started...

Nice to see that the Filipinos keep winning!
 
How do you feel about players staying up all night to gamble? If you are playing to see a player at his best, or if you are sponsoring a tournament, or sponsoring a player, shouldn't that player be at his or her best?
I realize that there is far more money to be made by gambling than in the tournament, but these side matches can be played by players who exit the tournament early or after the tournament.
Do you feel the players are short changing the fans and the sponsors by not be ready to play their best?
 
kaznj said:
How do you feel about players staying up all night to gamble? If you are playing to see a player at his best, or if you are sponsoring a tournament, or sponsoring a player, shouldn't that player be at his or her best?
I realize that there is far more money to be made by gambling than in the tournament, but these side matches can be played by players who exit the tournament early or after the tournament.
Do you feel the players are short changing the fans and the sponsors by not be ready to play their best?
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I left my heart in Toledo one year because of this very reason.

Some folk make a lot of sacrifices to attend a week-long pool tournament, and when the player has an 8 a.m. match and thinks it's okay to gamble with his buddies the night before until the wee hours of the morning, well, they can just go it on their own. I'd rather be home making money than going to a pool tournament and party. When you go to a pool tournament, you should put ALL OF YOUR EFFORT into winning, unless you get knocked out of the event. Then the sky's the limit on how much you want to engage in games of stake.

It was a long bus ride back home for one action player from Toledo, by way of Detroit, with his so-called "buddies." :wink:
 
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JAM said:
I left my heart in Toledo one year because of this very reason.

...when the player has an 8 a.m. match ...:wink:
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Well, that just sounds like poor tournament planning. It might even be considered cruel and unusual in a court of Law!!
 
Black-Balled said:
Well, that just sounds like poor tournament planning. It might even be considered cruel and unusual in a court of Law!!
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I drove 5 hours up, stayed 3 hours, and drove 5 hours back home. It actually kind of sucked for me.
 
I understand why they would gamble in smaller tournaments or places like DCC, but the purse for 1st at the US Open is $40,000. I think that would be where my efforts would be focused...

But then again, if they knew they had a break for most of the next day because loser's side matches are being played, I could definitely understand them wanting to stay sharp with some action.

But who knows? Nobody has ever accused us pool players of being the smartest bunch...:wink:
 
It funny that if a pool player stays up really late and wins big money gambling, people say good job and way to show some gamble and how good they must be hitting them.

Stay up really late and lose and people say they are dumb and mismanaged the tournament.

Bottom line: everyone loves a winner!
 
uwate said:
It funny that if a pool player stays up really late and wins big money gambling, people say good job and way to show some gamble and how good they must be hitting them.

Stay up really late and lose and people say they are dumb and mismanaged the tournament.

Bottom line: everyone loves a winner!
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as long as that winner books me a winner.

If I know I've got a lot to do at work the next day then I won't stay up late, etc...

As far as pool players go, gambling/tourneys IS their job so they must weigh the reward of staying up all night gambling vs. the effects it will have on their tourney play. If the action is soft then I would say it would be worth the late night play, but if it is a tough match then it is probably not worth it unless it's for a lot of money and the player has a backer.
 
uwate said:
It funny that if a pool player stays up really late and wins big money gambling, people say good job and way to show some gamble and how good they must be hitting them.

Stay up really late and lose and people say they are dumb and mismanaged the tournament.

Bottom line: everyone loves a winner!
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I thought Everyone Loves Raymond...silly me
 
uwate said:
It funny that if a pool player stays up really late and wins big money gambling, people say good job and way to show some gamble and how good they must be hitting them.

Stay up really late and lose and people say they are dumb and mismanaged the tournament.

Bottom line: everyone loves a winner!
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THAT is so true, in more ways than one! :wink:

The way I see it, if you're going to expend 2- to $3,000 to attend a week-long pool tournament, why not give it your best shot, like getting proper rest and nutrition. If you get knocked out of the tournament, then you can let your hair down, so to speak, and let it ride! :grin-square:

I know this for a fact. When I am on site at a pool tournament, I know exactly what's going on, who's been up all night gambling, who's fighting with their girlfriend resulting in poor concentration, et cetera, et cetera.

When you know this kind of information, it's easy to know the odds and outcome on most tournament matches. :cool:
 
inside_english said:
Tomoo Takano lost to Lee Van Corteza in a race to 15, 10ball.
I am not sure of the spot but I think he lost $1,000. Maybe someone else can clarify.

The match of the night was Ronnie Alcano vs. Chris Bartram.
The game was a race to 21 in 10-ball with Chris getting the called 7 & 9.

Final score 21-19 in favor of Alcano...for $3,000.

Match started at 1:00 a.m. and ended at 6:30 a.m.
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Hmmmmm, this makes me think:

Don't F With The Pinoys
 
Just as a side note; with the US Open being a week long tourney, if you are the winners side, you might have some down time after your 2nd win. If that's the case, then maybe you can squeeze some action in and sleep late the next day.

For that matter, thats why most of the action at Qmasters happens on day 2 and picks up again on day 4 or 5.


Eric
 
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