Odds On a Top Straight Pool Player Running 100 Balls

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We were talking in the poolroom the other day, and we were debating this handicapping question....

If a top straight pool player, like for example, John Schmidt or Thorsten Hohmann wants to bet he can step up to the table, let's say a gold crown with 4-1/2" pockets, start out with a standard 14.1 break shot and run 100 balls or more - what odds should he get to make it an even bet....I'm thinking the line might-should be about 5-1....whadda you guys think?

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1 Pocket Ghost said:
We were talking in the poolroom the other day, and we were debating this handicapping question....

If a top straight pool player, like for example, John Schmidt or Thorsten Hohmann wants to bet he can step up to the table, let's say a gold crown with 4-1/2" pockets, start out with a standard 14.1 break shot and run 100 balls or more - what odds should he get to make it an even bet....I'm thinking the line might-should be about 5-1....whadda you guys think?

- Ghost
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For a top player to agree the balls would have to be new and polished. The cloth would have to be new. Even then they might not go for that if the agreement is only one attempt. 5-1 doesn't sound right.
 
John Schmidt posted a thread earlier today in the 14.1 forum. If you respond to that thread he might answer your question.
 
alstl said:
John Schmidt posted a thread earlier today in the 14.1 forum. If you respond to that thread he might answer your question.
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Just read the post and yeah new balls and new cloth. Dry conditions also help.

"somewhat related random question" What the hell happened to Thomas Engert? He might take this bet if he still plays.
 
Ortmann basically did it what 3-4 times in a row?

I heard Mizerak would make that bet with very low odds but i cant remember the exact odds of course. I think Danny Barouty has the exact details which probably means Steve Lipsky does also-Ill PM him.
 
Bob Jewett might be able to tell us the percentage of 100+ runs from the Derby City Classic 14.1 competition.
 
AtLarge said:
Bob Jewett might be able to tell us the percentage of 100+ runs from the Derby City Classic 14.1 competition.
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I assume you mean set up your own break shot and go. That's what they do at the Derby, and I'm sure the 100 ball runs are a lot less than 1 out of 6 (5 to 1 odds) for all participants, and probably less for the cream of the crop also.
 
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I don't know the appropriate odds. I can tell you that a local room owner offered $100 to anyone to accomplish the feat. Dallas West did it on his first try. He also did this while filming a video tape on how to run 100 balls. I don't think he can do it every time... just sayin' :)
 
I know when Schmidt visits Marop they set them up that way and get the camera rolling. I think when Bill sees this post, he's got a good idea of on average how long it takes John to run a 100. I'm guessing something like 1 in 8 or 1 in 10.
 
dmgwalsh said:
I know when Schmidt visits Marop they set them up that way and get the camera rolling. I think when Bill sees this post, he's got a good idea of on average how long it takes John to run a 100. I'm guessing something like 1 in 8 or 1 in 10.
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That would be my uneducated guess too. Ask yourself how often it happens at a pro straight pool tournament.

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You need to specify the pocket dimensions. There will be a significant difference between very tight and very loose tables.

If you are thinking of gambling on the proposition, remember that the percentage of 100 ball runs will be lower if there is an opponent, or if a lot of money is at stake. In competition you do not get to start with ball in hand on a break shot of your choosing; many innings will offer you no chance of starting a 100 ball run.
 
Black-Balled said:
See earlier post:
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Yeah, Ortmann was playing well, but does that mean he will always do that.

Hohmann had a bunch of 125 ball runs in the European Straight Pool Championship a few years back, but that doesn't mean he's going to put up big numbers every time he hits the table.


I think John Schmidt is the best at consistently putting up big numbers. The best that I have heard about anyway.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Yeah, Ortmann was playing well, but does that mean he will always do that...
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Ahh, but it is not a question of being able to do it every time...I don't think I would want any part of 5 tries for Ortmann to run 100 w/ BIH to start with.

2:1, probably, but it would make me butterflys.
 
Nostroke said:
Whats that got to do with it? Some people that entered that had NEVER run 100-some hadnt run 65!
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Nostroke,
Hey!!! No need to resort to vicious personal attacks, slandering the feeble wannabe's that entered (errr....like me....).

I will have to admit you make a good point though. It seems self-evident that the percentage of 100 ball runs must definitely depend on the skill of the player/players attempting the feat, the equipment on which they are attempting it, and the competitive circumstances.

My chances of a 100 ball run vary over time - depending on practice time, amount of money wagered, and type of equipment. My success rate currently is hovering right around 0%. I have been working diligently for 3 years hoping to improve the percentage somewhat.

P.S. - I did spend a day on the beach last week at Seaside (I'm assuming the same one referred to in your avatar) - if you live there, you are one lucky SOB. What a nice place.
 
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