Breaking and your dominent eye. HUGE!!!

whitewolf said:
Here is my advice.

Fire the cueball up the table with no other balls on the table, going 5/6/7 rails - as hard as you can. When you find the right alignment the cueball will go straight up and straight back.
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You can hit it 6 or 7 rails straight up and down the table???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Gene...I guess the guys (and gals) who do NOT play with the cue under their dominant eye (and there are plenty of them) just can't expect to break well! :eek::rolleyes:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

genomachino said:
The break is probably the most important thing in pool especially on the bar table.

If you are right eye dominent you usually have a tendency to be lined up a little to the right of the center of the cue ball. You think you are in the middle but you are not. If you have someone watch from the front they will see where you are.

If you are left eye dominent the tendency is to be to the left.

Some players have a small middle. (This is the distance the stick is from the nose on a straight in shot.) They are not very strong eye dominent so they don't have a problem hitting the middle of the cue ball.

When I break I line up the cue ball with my eyes the normal way I do but I line the stick up about 1/4 inch to the right. This gets me to dead center.
I am left eye dominent. If I don't do this I get allot of spin on the cue ball spinning clockwise.

You also need to pause on your backstroke. But make sure you are stareing at the head ball when you stroke forward.

Imagine you are throwing a spear. You would pause a little once you had it back all the way. And I guarantee that you would be looking at the target if you wanted to hit it.

The same thing with the break. We are just throwing the spear underhand. Pause at the backstroke and now you can coordinate all your muscles in your body to do what you want to do when you come forward. Kind of like throwing a sucker punch when the guy isn't looking. Same thing.

But make sure you try this with the stick 1/4 inch either way until you judge this method. Many people judge before they try or think. And just say Yah Right.

Try it. I think you will like it. Lets hear some opinions and some testmonials after you have tried this.

Thanks for reading Geno.................
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Ray...5 rails? Maybe on a fast table. 7 rails (up and down the middle)?...NEVER, on any pool table...not even with Larry Nevel's break speed (or Fast Larry's stroke):rolleyes:. Post a video or it's BS. :grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

whitewolf said:
Fire the cueball up the table with no other balls on the table, going 5/6/7 rails - as hard as you can. When you find the right alignment the cueball will go straight up and straight back.
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Matt...This is not unusual at all. When you shoot low on the CB, you can accidentally put a MICRON (let's call it 1/64") or less, of sidespin on the CB. With higher stroke speed, it will rarely come back to your tip in a straight line. It's VERY difficult to do MD 3 at any kind of speed, with any kind of draw. Hard enough to shoot that drill with draw at a 1 speed (lag), and have it come back to your tip. Simple physics are at play here.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Spimp13 said:
I was doing MD3 for PEP last night and decided to mix the location of where I was aiming on the cue ball while shooting the same shot on the long rail cuts. No problem with the left cuts. For some reason I had trouble on the right cuts when trying to hit low on the cue ball. I lined up the shot and it looked good, but when it came time to strike I knew I was going to miss it before I shot it. No problems with a little bit of top, or even center ball on the cuts, just low....very weird as in I knew I was going to miss it every time before I shot it. I would even stop, get up, do the same pre shot routine, and my eyes still told me I was going to miss it when I was aiming low on the cue ball on these cuts. Must be a mental thing I hope :(.
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Scott Lee said:
Matt...This is not unusual at all. When you shoot low on the CB, you can accidentally put a MICRON (let's call it 1/64") or less, of sidespin on the CB. With higher stroke speed, it will rarely come back to your tip in a straight line. It's VERY difficult to do MD 3 at any kind of speed, with any kind of draw. Hard enough to shoot that drill with draw at a 1 speed (lag), and have it come back to your tip. Simple physics are at play here.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Thanks Scott, makes sense. I have enough other issues to not be pondering that one too much lol.
 
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Spimp13 said:
Thanks Scott, makes sense. I have enough other issues to not be pondering that one too much lol.
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If you have no spin you have no problem.

If I don't adjust my cue ball spins like a top. Not just a little bit. If it hits a rail doing this then it is adios if you know what I mean.

The players that get alot of spin are the ones that need to adjust and learn how to correct this.


Have a great day Geno..................
 
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that's what Perfect Aim is about............

Gerry said:
You know something Geno, this thread basically is my game in a nutshell. For YEARS I have been trying to "change" my game over to a snooker style, but it NEVER felt natural.

For the last year I went back to what feels right, BUT I have to make mental adjustments for every shot. When I get behind the shot it looks good but, when I get down on the shot I over cut balls to the right, and under cut to the left....I"m a lefty btw. Also :) when I'm more upright on all shots the exact opposite is true...weird, but VERY consistent.

So, now I deal with it and make my mental adjustment without any doubt about missing. Every time I miss it is because I shot too quick without the proper preshot thoughts.

There is a happy medium where I don't need to adjust, but you can't always be in that perfect position, so I adjust and I think I'll stick with it.

great thread.

G.
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Hi there,

You have kind of explained Perfect Aim in a nutshell. All I've done is taken what we naturally have and showed everyone the way it works the best. It cuts out all the guess work. And once you understand exactly how the eyes work you can correct what you've been doing wrong forever on every type of shot.

Did you get the Perfect Aim video. If not you should. It sounds like you are already half way there. Good Job..

Thanks for your intelligent thoughts. Geno.............

When I showed this to Rodney Morris his first remark was: If your missing the ball your not seeing it right. It's as simple as that.
 
Wow..........

MOJOE said:
I really appreciate Gene's sharing of advice on the forum.. I have not yet received the video and already have made drastic improvements in my game just from picking info on the various threads on AZ.. I read this thread last night just before heading out to play and all I can say is WOW!

Even though a simple concept, I used it was quite impressed. Of course, it works on all shots, not just the breaks. I found that hitting the straight in long shots became simple and I was stopping my rock dead on whenever I wanted to.

Thanks Gene for your contributions to the forum. My game is forever thankful, I'll be giving you a call tonight once I get home and on the table. You have shown tons of heart proven to be a valuable contributor as well.

Joe
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Hi there MOJOE,

I don't know what to say. It's comments like yours that make this mission I've been on with Perfect Aim all worth while. I'm not ashamed to admit it brought tears to my eyes.
It's players like yourself that are learning that gives me back more than I could ever share or ever give.

Thanks and good luck geno................
 
Not a problem...........

pooljunkie4ever said:
This is indeed is great information. I have just started breaking like you mentioned above. Thing is I found this out on my own after breaking like 2 hours straight. I noticed that my cue ball was always scratching in the side pocket, opposite where I break. Didn't matter what side I broke from I would scratch. My adjustment was I would hit the edge of the front ball, you will know if you go to far becuase it will hit the break side bottom rail.
My question to you Geno, in my break, i leave marks on the table after my break, it's not straight, it swings to my left. I am trying to find out what causes this. Is there any advice you can give me.
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This is natural and the mark is after you have hit the ball. Kind of like a golfer with the divet after the call. Not behind. Many players will have to experiment with this but they will have to make adjustments.

Or a soccer player that is kicking with the right foot. The ball usually will curve to the right if you catch it right in the arch area on your foot. When they kick a football for a field goal they adjust for the curve.

We can do the same. The result. We don't make the same mistake over and over and over. We can correct it and in turn start breaking with some real power.

Have a great day Geno..................
 
Very correct.

ShootingArts said:
Not Geno here obviously but don't jump to any conclusions if the curve is out beyond your normal stroke length. Your stance and body type often force a curve into a very long follow through. This may not indicate a problem. Curves only matter if they start before you hit the cue ball. All of us with a manly physique have to curve the stroke at the end of a very long follow through.

Hu
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Thanks for the input. Great answer.........
 
Need to adjust...........

pooljunkie4ever said:
Thanks for the input.
This is what I have tried to correct the problem. I have shorten my bridge hand to the cue ball. I am about one diamond away. I have also placed my grip hand closer. I have noticed that if you have a big pause like Geno has suggested, I will get a decent break, even with a shorter stroke.
I asked about the curve swing becuase my cue ball will have english. I don't know if i am misaligned or if its coming from the curve stroke. I am thinking this affects my power game or whenever I jack up. More than likely this will help my game if I can find the source. Thanks.
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Hi there,

If the ball spins counter clockwise there is a good chance you are right eye dominent. If it spins clockwise after the break you are probably left eye dominent.

If the spin is counter clockwise when you address the cue ball move the tip to the right. It will look to you like you are way to far but you will find where you need to move to and get it right. Trial and error.

If your cue ball spins counter clockwise then you need to move the tip to the left on the cue ball. Always pause on the backstroke and fire.

If you get no spin you have found the spot.

The reason this is happening to players is complicated but the solution is pretty simple. Once you start breaking well you will make this a habit.

Have a great day Geno.....................
 
genomachino said:
The break is probably the most important thing in pool especially on the bar table.

If you are right eye dominent you usually have a tendency to be lined up a little to the right of the center of the cue ball. You think you are in the middle but you are not. If you have someone watch from the front they will see where you are.

If you are left eye dominent the tendency is to be to the left.

Some players have a small middle. (This is the distance the stick is from the nose on a straight in shot.) They are not very strong eye dominent so they don't have a problem hitting the middle of the cue ball.

When I break I line up the cue ball with my eyes the normal way I do but I line the stick up about 1/4 inch to the right. This gets me to dead center.
I am left eye dominent. If I don't do this I get allot of spin on the cue ball spinning clockwise.

You also need to pause on your backstroke. But make sure you are stareing at the head ball when you stroke forward.

Imagine you are throwing a spear. You would pause a little once you had it back all the way. And I guarantee that you would be looking at the target if you wanted to hit it.

The same thing with the break. We are just throwing the spear underhand. Pause at the backstroke and now you can coordinate all your muscles in your body to do what you want to do when you come forward. Kind of like throwing a sucker punch when the guy isn't looking. Same thing.

But make sure you try this with the stick 1/4 inch either way until you judge this method. Many people judge before they try or think. And just say Yah Right.

Try it. I think you will like it. Lets hear some opinions and some testmonials after you have tried this.

Thanks for reading Geno.................
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I too am left-eye dominant and figured this out on my own. It is nice to hear it from somebody as yourself. I've also experimented with it when shooting long straight in shots, and shots when trying to use dead center ball or rolling center.

Gene hits them good and can still play. I watched him snap off a young whipper-snapper in Indianapolis a couple weeks ago. :wink:
 
A friend of mine had a simular problem...........

randyg said:
What hand should I hold my cards in? SPF=randyg
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Hi there RandyG,

His name was Ron Hurt. He came to my poolroom back in the 90's. He had gotten in a fight and had broken his wrist real bad. He had about 5 surgeries and it was healing so he couldn't use it at all.

One day he got drunk and got into another fight. He broke his other wrist. About a week later he came into my poolroom and we started to talk about thing he could do and couldn't do with his hands all casted up like that.

He said it was OK before because he is right handed and the first one he broke was his left one. But this right one being broke really sucks.

Then a thought popped into my head and I thought I would pick on Ron a little. I asked him: how do you wipe your butt?

A great big smile came across Rons face as he looked at his wife. He said just a few words. My wife. She loves me.

Now that is true love..................................
 
I hope you understand..........

dr_dave said:
Gene,

FYI, I have lots of info and quotes concerning dominant eye here:


One of the quotes is from "henho." He let's you know where to find info on this topic from people who have researched it thoroughly. Here's the quote:



Regards,
Dave

PS: Gene, it is good to see you posting some of your opinions and ideas. I hope you will get involved in more discussions. I think you have a lot to contribute.
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Mr dave,

I would love to teach everyone everything for free but this is what I do for a living. The money I make keeps me traveling to keep showing and teaching the Perfect Aim.

Right now I am working on a deal with QVC and HSN to go on the show live and teach players right on the spot how Perfect Aim works. This way I could reach so many more players. Everyone needs to know this. And it is so simple.

I can't let the whole cat out of the bag or the show is over.

Ironically eberything I do with aiming and pool go right back to the basics and Perfect Aim.

Have a great day geno.............
 
genomachino said:
I don't know who would try to teach players to look at the cue ball last. I would question their ability because I don't think they really got it going on.
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This one I may need to respectfully question :grin:

For MOST shots I fully agree, we should be looking at the object ball during stroke delivery.

But there are a few instances where I feel looking at the cueball during the final stroke could be beneficial. Im not saying its a must, but for a lot of players it could help them in certain situations.

1) When Jacked up over a ball.

2) When frozen to the rail.

3) When breaking.

An accurate hit on the cueball is always important. But in these instances its even MORE important.

I understand and agree with your spear example. But the difference is when throwing a spear, the spear is in your hand so your looking at the target. When shooting a ball, the ball is not in your hand but the cue is. The only thing you can really control is the cue. So actually your cue is the spear and the target is the spot on the cueball. If your lined up properly, and hit the spot on the cueball your trying to hit you will hit the rack square.

Some people dont need to look at the cueball in these cases, but some may be surprised at the results if they try it.

Again, I DO NOT endorse looking at the cueball on every shot. But I also wont say there is NEVER a case when it may be better to do so.

Woody
 
Forgot to mention that the original post is a good one. Ive been doing this for a while, although sometimes I forget LOL.

For me, I aim the right edge of my cue at what looks like center ball and it gives me the most accurate hit.

Woody
 
Mr. Geno,

I know you need to make a living. I wish you continued success with your business.

I was just giving you kudos for "opening up" a little in this thread.

Regards,
Dave

genomachino said:
dr_dave said:
FYI, I have lots of info and quotes concerning dominant eye here:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threa....html#dominant

One of the quotes is from "henho." He let's you know where to find info on this topic from people who have researched it thoroughly.

Regards,
Dave

PS: Gene, it is good to see you posting some of your opinions and ideas. I hope you will get involved in more discussions. I think you have a lot to contribute.
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Mr dave,

I would love to teach everyone everything for free but this is what I do for a living. The money I make keeps me traveling to keep showing and teaching the Perfect Aim.

Right now I am working on a deal with QVC and HSN to go on the show live and teach players right on the spot how Perfect Aim works. This way I could reach so many more players. Everyone needs to know this. And it is so simple.

I can't let the whole cat out of the bag or the show is over.

Ironically eberything I do with aiming and pool go right back to the basics and Perfect Aim.

Have a great day geno.............
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