S.A.M Method

sounds great!

Scott Lee said:
Hu...S.A.M. is STILL R.A.D.! LOL The only errors we can make are 1) Recognition; 2) Alignment; or 3) Delivery. That's why we focus so much on the delivery end first...and then alignment (of your body & cue, to the shot), and recognition (of the angle #)! BTW, I'll be down in LA in a few days. Let's try to have dinner again!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Scott,

Let me know when you are going to be here or give a shout when you are here. It would be great to get together again.

Hu
 
So i gave this a go last night and boy is it great!!! My play level dropped a little bit because the concept was new to me (this was expected) so i tried to just go back to doing things old way and found i cant!!!!

My pool game has been forever changed for the better. Thank you:grin:
 
I still have yet to find how this works....I did a search but didn't come up with anyone explaining the method.
 
SAM..... isn't the ice cream... it isn't the whipped creme.... it isn't even the sprinkles,,

It's the cherry on top

and a cherry is pretty useless without the rest of the sundae
 
Many people have taken SAM school. A player in my room did. He used to mumble during pre-shot, 3, 6 or 2. Whatever the number for that shot was. He finally dropped it after using it over 1 year. He shot pretty well with it and the same without it, I think better. He became less stiff, his game had taken on a mechanical rhythm using SAM. He personally had (SAM Instructor to remain nameless) in his home. And he explained it to me. I'm not knocking SAM or the fact that these teachers depend on teaching for a living. But I was a product designer for many years. We had societies where we freely shared ideas. Nobody gave away the farm, so to speak but I'm sick of seeing SAM threads. This guy who started this thread comes across as not knowing anything about it and less than a week later he can't live without it. Sorry for the rant. But I’m posting because of a few PM’s received.

BTW, I use many systems and methods, learned from books, DVD's and sharing ideas here. Do I use SAM? No. Do I understand SAM? Probably not otherwise I'd embrace it like a gift from God. Want to see some good stuff for $30. Check out Dr. Dave & Tom Ross (Video encyclopedia of pool shots) DVD. Look in the threads here for reviews. Now that is some amazing stuff, and there's more DVD's to follow.
Respectfully to all SAM teachers and users.........Paul
 
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Paul,
Your friend's "mechanical" style had little or nothing to do with SAM. SAM is an aiming system. It has nothing to do with how a person shoots, only how they see the point where they need to aim. SAM is not a class...it is one workshop in a much bigger class. Those of us who teach it are very up-front with our students, telling them you may like the system, and you may not. If you don't, then don't use it. It is simply one more way (and a very effective way, in my opinion) to make sure you are aiming the shot correctly.

I worked with one poster on here a few weeks ago who saw SAM, and immediately took to it and made it a part of his game. When I first learned it, I pretty much left it alone for about a year. But once I started using it, I knew I wouldn't be giving it up.

SAM has nothinng to do with how you shoot, only with how you line up your shot.

Steve
 
I must have it confused with something else then. I feel terrible about this. Evidently, his system and saying these numbers (2,7,4)are not SAM and all this time I thought it was.

My apologies. None the less, read the post that started this and then read his latest. He went from zero knowledge, to maybe I've seen some, to I can't live without it. All in about 1 week. The entire thread could have been avoided had he searched SAM. Don't you agree?

Again, if I'm wrong I apoligize. I treat forums like we were sitting in front of each other. Unfortunately, we have pauses or gaps in the conversation and voice inflection is missing.

regards...........Paul
 
Mike...I'm doing a 3-day school in the Bay Area Dec. 18-20. I'll be in Sactown around Xmas. I'll give you a call.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Deadon said:
Hi Scott;

That sounds like the same method that Joe Tucker uses instead of the old SAM. BTW, I really like Joe's "By the Numbers" concept to determine an aiming line.

When you coming out West?

Mike
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let me know

Scott Lee said:
Hu...Randy is in Dallas. I'll be in Lafayette on Wed. Still hoping to stop in to N.O. on the way down, but a car problem pushed me back, so it's touch and go at this point.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Scott,

I think I am near Lafayette on Saturday but I suspect you will be long gone by then, hopefully spending the holiday with your family. I have to be in New Orleans on Wednesday myself so we'll have to play things by ear. Give me a shout if anything looks likely.

Hu
 
Paul Mon said:
Many people have taken SAM school. A player in my room did. He used to mumble during pre-shot, 3, 6 or 2. Whatever the number for that shot was. He finally dropped it after using it over 1 year. He shot pretty well with it and the same without it, I think better. He became less stiff, his game had taken on a mechanical rhythm using SAM. He personally had (SAM Instructor to remain nameless) in his home. And he explained it to me. I'm not knocking SAM or the fact that these teachers depend on teaching for a living. But I was a product designer for many years. We had societies where we freely shared ideas. Nobody gave away the farm, so to speak but I'm sick of seeing SAM threads. This guy who started this thread comes across as not knowing anything about it and less than a week later he can't live without it. Sorry for the rant. But I’m posting because of a few PM’s received.

BTW, I use many systems and methods, learned from books, DVD's and sharing ideas here. Do I use SAM? No. Do I understand SAM? Probably not otherwise I'd embrace it like a gift from God. Want to see some good stuff for $30. Check out Dr. Dave & Tom Ross (Video encyclopedia of pool shots) DVD. Look in the threads here for reviews. Now that is some amazing stuff, and there's more DVD's to follow.
Respectfully to all SAM teachers and users.........Paul
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Ive only been on here for a short period of time and i have apologized for starting threads that have been done to death. I even stated that will use the search more often so i can avoid a repeat topic.

Also yes SAM has made a very huge impact on my game (for the better) almost immediately after learning it. So out of due respect towards others i suggest not being so harsh or quick to say that you find it hard to believe. Like stated above some people like it and some dont. Even one person said they abandoned it at the start and then a year later went back to it and now cant play without. Hmmmm Sounds to me that someone wishes they could get that year back :lol:

All in all somethings work great for others and somethings dont. That's just how it is i guess :smile:
 
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RunoutJJ said:
Today, 09:13 AM
I must have it confused with something else then. I feel terrible about this. Evidently, his system and saying these numbers (2,7,4)are not SAM and all this time I thought it was.

My apologies. None the less, read the post that started this and then read his latest. He went from zero knowledge, to maybe I've seen some, to I can't live without it. All in about 1 week. The entire thread could have been avoided had he searched SAM. Don't you agree?

Again, if I'm wrong I apoligize. I treat forums like we were sitting in front of each other. Unfortunately, we have pauses or gaps in the conversation and voice inflection is missing.

regards...........Paul

"If it was easy anyone could do it"


Ive only been on here for a short period of time and i have apologized for starting threads that have been done to death. I even stated that will use the search more often so i can avoid a repeat topic.

Also yes SAM has made a very huge impact on my game (for the better) almost immediately after learning it. So out of due respect towards others i suggest not being so harsh or quick to say that you find it hard to believe. Like stated above some people like it and some dont. Even one person said they abandoned it at the start and then a year later went back to it and now cant play without. Hmmmm Sounds to me that someone wishes they could get that year back :lol:

All in all somethings work great for others and somethings dont. That's just how it is i guess :smile:
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Again, if I'm wrong I apoligize for the last time. And I obviously was wrong about SAM and everything else that had ever entered by brain in regard to SAM. Everything I read or heard from students that I took to be negative was wrong and I regret mentioning it.

I'll leave this thread now. God Speed RunoutJJ it's obvious you have great passion for this sport and thats the bottom line..

Paul
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whats the best video to get for the sam aiming system.
more tools in the box the better.
thanks
 
Paul Mon:
Evidently, his system and saying these numbers (2,7,4)are not SAM and all this time I thought it was.
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I believe S.A.M. is a numbered aiming system with different cut angles called "SAM 1", "SAM 2", etc. - and it sounds to me like your friend could have been using it. According to Cue-Tech instructor Scott Lee, it's a version of a Hal Houle aiming system (I think it's Hal's old "three angles" or "ball fractions" system):

"We teach a version of one of Hal Houle's aiming systems. We call it S.A.M., for Supplemental Aiming Method."

Scott Lee - 2/22/2008
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=90051&highlight=Supplemental+Aiming+Method

pj
chgo
 
I'm trying to figure out which Hal system SAM is based from. I know of CTE, "the piece," the 3 sight (center/center, center/.25, center/edge) pivot system, shishkebob, and the reflections. However, none of them seem to be a straight fractional reference system like SAM.

I'm not knocking anything - I'm just wondering.
 
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