looking for a quality solid tip

bman43

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i dont like layered tips.never did.being a cuemaker,i can put any tip i want but just prefer solid tips love the hit of lepro but it mushrooms and the quality is a problem.love the way triangles hold up.but not crazy about the hit, a little soft.does any one know of a high quality solid tip ? i thought i was ok with diamondbacks, but they are out of business.how r the dudleys from mueller ? any help would be appreciated. thanks
 
WB water buffalo tips are the best thing on the market right now in terms of non-layered tips, IMO. They are different than the previous WB tips that we all hate due to chunking. These remind me of a "good one" LePro that is broken in & stable. I'm putting them on all my cues I build and play with them on my personal cue. Hope this helps.
 
The single layer WB water buffalo gets my vote also, holds shape and hits hard. However, they offer black and natural. Is there any difference in hardness between the two?
 
The single layer WB water buffalo gets my vote also, holds shape and hits hard. However, they offer black and natural. Is there any difference in hardness between the two?


No difference that I can tell. I bought one box of black & one box of natural. Once on & cut & shaped, exactly the same thing. I buy only natural now.
 
WB water buffalo tips are the best thing on the market right now in terms of non-layered tips, IMO. They are different than the previous WB tips that we all hate due to chunking. These remind me of a "good one" LePro that is broken in & stable. I'm putting them on all my cues I build and play with them on my personal cue. Hope this helps.

ive been thinking about the wb but havent tried yet.now i will.the thing i like about triangles is that if you gently twist it in a shaper it will never mushroom and hold a perfect radius.
 
ive been thinking about the wb but havent tried yet.now i will.the thing i like about triangles is that if you gently twist it in a shaper it will never mushroom and hold a perfect radius.

also,i was thinking of trying the emralds too
 
Try the Le Pros, but after shaping & burnishing the sides, coat the edges with super glue gel. Then shape the crown. Even an Elkmaster won't mushroom after this treatment. It will retain the playing charicteristics, but no mushrooming...JER
 
Try the Le Pros, but after shaping & burnishing the sides, coat the edges with super glue gel. Then shape the crown. Even an Elkmaster won't mushroom after this treatment. It will retain the playing charicteristics, but no mushrooming...JER

Among all non layer tip I prefer Elkmaster but I vice it. If I am lazy, I will hammer it between an old magazine. Drop it on a solid surface(to hear the pitch) to tune(and re-hammer) it to my liking.

ps- I believed Elkmaster is Efren choice of weapon. :grin:
 
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i prefer solid tips too. diamondbacks were great, but out of business now. lepros are nice, i found that the 15mm size are thicker and better quality. triangle 15mms are same quality as 14mm, but just slightly thicker. i find also that pressing helps, but you have to use a tip press jig like the picone, otherwise the tip spreads and tears up the leather a bit.

been experimenting with a few different ways to make milk duds, they seem to play pretty good too

qbilder mentioned a 'new' WB tip....did they change something?
 
so far i've found that i dig the brown/black WB tips and triumph tips. when it comes to getting a good one they'd lost to triangle or le pro tips but they're no where near as hit or miss. just about every WB and triumph tip i've tried was pretty good. not like lepros or triangles. you can go through a whole box and only find 4-5 good ones
 
i dont like layered tips.never did.being a cuemaker,i can put any tip i want but just prefer solid tips love the hit of lepro but it mushrooms and the quality is a problem.love the way triangles hold up.but not crazy about the hit, a little soft.does any one know of a high quality solid tip ? i thought i was ok with diamondbacks, but they are out of business.how r the dudleys from mueller ? any help would be appreciated. thanks
Press the Triangles in a vise before installing them and you might change your mind about the hit. That will get rid of the soft hit. It makes them hit about like a new LePro without the mushrooming and gives a little more grip than the LePro.
 
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I've backed the water buffalo tips for years. As for chunking I have had zero returned for this issue. Maybe I've been lucky, but for the money they consistantly perform well. Great firm hit and seem to last forever. I personally play with them and have sworn by them for nearly ten years. Good luck in your search for the magic wand.
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
http://www.triplecrosscues.com
 
qbilder mentioned a 'new' WB tip....did they change something?

Yeah, they changed big time. The last box of WB's I bought was around 8 years ago & they were trash. The tips were very tall & porous, and extremely hard. They chunked out when using side spin or on a break shot.

I never tried them again until this last year. They were a totally different formula than the last batch I bought. The new ones are not quite as good as Sumo used to be, but are way better than the Triangles & LePros I have been buying. Granted, the Triangles & LePros can be good tips if I treat them and/or press them, but what a pain in the ass is that? For a tip out of the box that's good, I am really liking the new WB's. And if treated and/or pressed, they are pretty awesome.
 
I have gotten them all from Atlas. I hear that J&J has the best price but I don't know. I order boxes from Atlas whenever I order other stuff.
 
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Press the Triangles in a vise before installing them and you might change your mind about the hit. That will get rid of the soft hit. It makes them hit about like a new LePro without the mushrooming and gives a little more grip than the LePro.

I've been a fan of Triangles since I started doing repairs. They are very consistent. I encourage you to try one pressed. I used to put Sumo's on as a break tip, but after playing with one. I was surprised, I thought it played pretty good. If you think a Triangle is too soft, this might be a better fit for you. I think it's made from water buffalo hide, but I don't know if it would be considered brown, or black. I hope I've helped in some way. Take care..... Mikey :smile:
 
I've been a fan of Triangles since I started doing repairs. They are very consistent. I encourage you to try one pressed. I used to put Sumo's on as a break tip, but after playing with one. I was surprised, I thought it played pretty good. If you think a Triangle is too soft, this might be a better fit for you. I think it's made from water buffalo hide, but I don't know if it would be considered brown, or black. I hope I've helped in some way. Take care..... Mikey :smile:

ive been using triangles for years. then i tried diamondback and like them too. actually i love them both, just wish they had a harder hit. i pressed one last night (friday nite)and will try today(triangle that is)
 
pressing definitely makes the triangle and diamondbacks hit harder. i found you really need to use a jig though to keep the tip from spreading when you press. if you don't use one, the tip just get wide and thin and doesn't work nearly as well
 
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