What's a fair spot?

I've seen top players give B players the 5 and out and still win easily. I once saw a top player give a B player the 3 and out and they broke even. When you're playing a pro player it's a race to the one ball.
 
The break, games on the wire, and 2 or 3 money balls moving around on the break. And they still don't have to get there.
 
Spots

What is a fair spot for a B player against James Walden or another top player?


My brother Country Calvin used to give B players the 5,6,7,8,9 & the breaks on the bar box and win, the last time Calvin and James Walden played, James won playing even, so B players can get alot of weight and still loose playing a real player!


David Harcrow
 
beyond our comprehension

When we watch pros play pros they rarely make a shot that we don't make regularly. So unless we get the opportunity to play against a pro, playing at 100 percent, it's almost impossible to comprehend how good they really are.

Unlike in the Olympics watching Vonn ski downhill at 90 miles an hour, we know that we cannot compete, nor would we want to, against that kind of expertise.

By the way , spots are not given to make a game fair. Each player ,the
giver and the given, think that they have the advantage.
 
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My brother Country Calvin used to give B players the 5,6,7,8,9 & the breaks on the bar box and win, the last time Calvin and James Walden played, James won playing even, so B players can get alot of weight and still loose playing a real player!


sorry but 5,6,7,8,9 and the break on a bar table?

anyone who can play a little bit and doesn't scratch on the break will beat any player in the world at this game.

a good breaker might win this game without ever shooting a shot after the break.
 
sorry but 5,6,7,8,9 and the break on a bar table?

anyone who can play a little bit and doesn't scratch on the break will beat any player in the world at this game.

a good breaker might win this game without ever shooting a shot after the break.

Completely agree. I would even take that on the big table.
 
I guess it depends on the definition of a B player. Around here, a B player is subject to put a 3 or 4 pack on you with no spot.

exactly,and anyone who can string 3-4's or even steady 2's without a spot will rob Walden or anyone else with the 5-9 and breaks on a bar table,unless there is a gaff like a funnt breaking table or bad racks or etc.
 
I don't think so Sir!

sorry but 5,6,7,8,9 and the break on a bar table?

anyone who can play a little bit and doesn't scratch on the break will beat any player in the world at this game.

a good breaker might win this game without ever shooting a shot after the break.



I see you haven't been out much!, I've seen good B players get weak as a Kitten playing a real player!


David Harcrow
 
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I guess it depends on the definition of a B player. Around here, a B player is subject to put a 3 or 4 pack on you with no spot. They aren't going to do it real regularly, but they can do it.

Play sets you going to 6 he going to 9
you getting 3 games with 6 and out you getting 4 foul all your money ball wild.. you get all the breaks.
If it's the road player James W
Make him play left hand .
Good luck
 
I see you haven't been out much!


no i don't get out much,but if you want to bring James or Calvin or anyone else to Nashville,they have action.


sorry if i offended you,but i guess we have different definitions of a B player.
 
What is a fair spot for a B player against James Walden or another top player?

When I was playing on a regular basis, I would be happy to get the five and the break. I only got that game once, and I got lucky that time. :cool:
 
I see you haven't been out much!, I've seen good B players get weak as a Kitten playing a real player!


David Harcrow

With this game, it doesn't matter AT ALL how good the top player plays. All that matters is how good the "B player" is. Like the other poster said, if he can break at all, and run a couple of balls ON A BAR TABLE, the top player has no chance.
 
i know C players that break well that will win this game.

like i said i don't get out much,but i will come to OK city tomorrow for this game.
 
no i don't get out much,but if you want to bring James or Calvin or anyone else to Nashville,they have action.


sorry if i offended you,but i guess we have different definitions of a B player.

Ok guys, I didn't mean to start an argument. I see James in Chesters (OKC) pretty regularly. I've thought about asking him if he would play cheep but I do want to be competitive. I figure I'll have the worst of it no matter what the spot. James is a seasoned gambler and I'm not. I'm not looking to make a score just wanted to play a top player.

Steven
 
Ok guys, I didn't mean to start an argument

you're right,i didn't mean to argue with anyone,sorry if i came across rude.

James is a great player but like eazy said,it doesn't matter how well James plays b/c he will be sitting down most of the time against a solid B player.

the break is strong,sometimes people don't realize how strong it is.the A player can only win one game at a time and a good B player will be running out like water with that spot.
 
Ok guys, I didn't mean to start an argument. I see James in Chesters (OKC) pretty regularly. I've thought about asking him if he would play cheep but I do want to be competitive. I figure I'll have the worst of it no matter what the spot. James is a seasoned gambler and I'm not. I'm not looking to make a score just wanted to play a top player.

Steven

Steven,

If you're playing for $20 sets or $5 a game, you can't ask for a big spot. Just take the wild 7 and 8 (make them count on the break for you, spot for him) get on a tight table and play until you've lost enough. The spot is him being gracious and playing you cheap. He'll probably do it if nothing else better comes along.

The goal playing a top player like that is to gain experience by being on the same table. You're going to be into his game so much, it's hard to get into yours.

One word of advice: practice your banks, safeties and kick shots a lot before getting on the table with him. Players who can't kick or safe have no chance at all against a good player even with a hefty spot - they'll get ball in hand every rack and you can't win. They can quickly spot weaknesses and expolit them.

Chris
 
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