I think that's the only way to be repeatable with your body position. Agreed.
Do you line up your body then the shaft or the shaft then the body to the shaft?
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I think that's the only way to be repeatable with your body position. Agreed.
I think that's what they're saying and a lot of guys do it.
OTOneH, I agree with your point about how that approach can effect your body mechanics and actually create a setup that is less than optimal. OTOtherH, it does works for a lot of guys too.
So, IMO, here's the issue: with this approach, as with any other, there is the possibility that it might not be the best one for you. OK, so maybe it works great for John Schmidt and it's hard to argue with that kind of success. But maybe you don't have John's body type, or hand-eye coordination, or you're just not wired the same way, and setting up on your chin, or with your feet, or your shoulder works way better for you.
So you have to try it, along with other approaches, and see what works best *for you.*
Lou Figueroa
Nobody lines up a shot better than Mika. It fast, deadly accurate and very consistent. He takes the cue while standing tall raises the cue up to his sight line with both hands on the cue and comes down on the shot in one simple motion. It is very easy to copy and it works.
Gabber
Banned
Basically, yes.
how long to run a rack........NO RAIL....old video.....:wink:
I agree with Randy. Its EYES,CUE,BODY. You are basically saying the same thing.
What's more important , the cue being on line or your body position?
Saw your site, great stuff. Loved the banking but I must say I don't get it. Love to hear more on that.
Also watched your 49 run. One comment. The idea is, that when you get down into the shooting position, you should have already decided what shot you are going to play and how you are going to play it.
Do you?
Gabber
It's kind of one fluid process, rather than 2 distinct steps where one comes before the other. For me, the process could be broken down like this:
1. Step right foot forward into position behind the shot.
2. Simultaneously step left foot forward into position while leaning forward and placing the bridge hand on the table behind the shot.
3. Slide bridge hand forward into its final position.
4. Finish lowering upper body down to cue level.
So the cue is on the line as soon as my bridge hand hits the table (step 2). One of my feet is already in place before that happens, but most of my body is not yet settled into position. And the cue is fully locked into position in step 3, whereas the rest of my body isn't fully settled until after that.
So in that sense, the cue is aligned first, and then the body.
-Andrew
1. Step right foot forward into position behind the shot.
2. Simultaneously step left foot forward into position while leaning forward and placing the bridge hand on the table behind the shot.
3. Slide bridge hand forward into its final position.
4. Finish lowering upper body down to cue level.
So the cue is on the line as soon as my bridge hand hits the table (step 2). One of my feet is already in place before that happens, but most of my body is not yet settled into position. And the cue is fully locked into position in step 3, whereas the rest of my body isn't fully settled until after that.
So in that sense, the cue is aligned first, and then the body.
-Andrew
I do, thanks
When I get down, I intentionally pivot. That's different than getting down and moving around.Everyone has a different take on this - but if your body isn't set properly, you'll have a hard time stroking straight. For me, the cue is the very last thing I set because it's final position is unknown until the pivot reaches center ball. But, that's just me.
everyone in the midwest does that, just about every descent player around that area lines up the shot like that sighting through the cue.
When you view the shot from that angle its like a big projection picture with a highlighted marker laid out for your. You then drop in and win.
It's not that there's this whole lengthy drop'n'shuffle routine that everyone must do every shot. When you first learn it, it's exaggerated. It takes a sec to find where the cue is pointing from your neutral back hand. You bend to line up to it a little slowly so as not to accidentally steer it somewhere else. If you're still learning what works for you, you move a foot forward or back maybe.
After doing this a bunch of times, it's more like
A. Step up to the table for your inning, simultaneously (and with zero conscious thought) aligning yourself to the line of the shot
B. Bend down while simultaneously putting your feet in the spot you know works for you.
It's the same steps, just condensed and automatic from years of repetition. The whole kinister routine is more of a guide for those who aren't sure of their stance yet. Once they're sure they'll make it efficient on their own.
PS: I don't think it matters whether a person grabs the cue with an air bridge before dropping or plants their hand and lowers the cue onto it.
After doing this a bunch of times, it's more like
A. Step up to the table for your inning, simultaneously (and with zero conscious thought) aligning yourself to the line of the shot
B. Bend down while simultaneously putting your feet in the spot you know works for you.
It's the same steps, just condensed and automatic from years of repetition. The whole kinister routine is more of a guide for those who aren't sure of their stance yet. Once they're sure they'll make it efficient on their own.
PS: I don't think it matters whether a person grabs the cue with an air bridge before dropping or plants their hand and lowers the cue onto it.
While still upright, I hold my cue horizontally at table height, my shooting arm limp, my grip light, and my bridge arm holding the shaft roughly where I will hold it when I'm down on the shot. Then I line up the shot and drop on the shot, moving and twisting my body in order to leave my shooting arm completely still and limp (it probably moves, but it's a mental thing I guess). I take a few strokes at the speed I'll want to hit, and check that my shaft travels straight. If it doesn't, I wiggle slightly some part of my body until it does (usually my hips). Then, and only then, do I fine tune my aim by shifting my weight on my feet ever so slightly, to keep my body in "shoot straight" configuration. Finally, I concentrate on moving only my forearm and execute the shot.
This is overly decomposed, but in reality it takes me as little as a second or two to shoot. But if I need extra accuracy for that long straight shot, I will go through these motions for as long as it takes until the shot feels just right.
This is overly decomposed, but in reality it takes me as little as a second or two to shoot. But if I need extra accuracy for that long straight shot, I will go through these motions for as long as it takes until the shot feels just right.
