1. Jude, you are my hero right now. YEEEESSSSSS!!!!!
It's what i have been saying since day one.
2. Maybe the only reason PCN could say the things he had to say, was precisely because of that anonymity.
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1. Jude, you are my hero right now. YEEEESSSSSS!!!!!
It's what i have been saying since day one.
2. Maybe the only reason PCN could say the things he had to say, was precisely because of that anonymity.
I like that PCN (I'll call him Max from now on) guy did the blog anonymously. He really was just a fan who loved women's billiards. I exchanged e-mails with him last year and found him to be nothing but cordial and humble.
This censorship is bs. Before all of this, I was going to give John Rousseau the benefit of the doubt, but if he threatened someone who merely stated his opinion.....just imagine what's next.
We play/love pool, we know that pool is not pretty and polite.....I don't know about you guys, but I learned to play in a pool hall full of colorful characters. For the media that we have now to put a pretty bow on something and call it a legitimate story, pft give me the real story every time and I'll be entertained. I completely agree with you Jude, they are way too soft.
This censorship is bs. Before all of this, I was going to give John Rousseau the benefit of the doubt, but if he threatened someone who merely stated his opinion.....just imagine what's next.
We play/love pool, we know that pool is not pretty and polite.....I don't know about you guys, but I learned to play in a pool hall full of colorful characters. For the media that we have now to put a pretty bow on something and call it a legitimate story, pft give me the real story every time and I'll be entertained. I completely agree with you Jude, they are way too soft.
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Unfortunately, this can never be proven as long as Max stays quiet.
Only by Max coming back, can we begin to understand what he felt was threatening, and the depths of those threats, should they prove valid.
Yeah, i have already dealt with a couple already. EDIT: From anonymous angry people, and NOT from John R. that i know of.
Given my personality, I guess that will alway be a constant in my life.
You get used to it after a while and sleeping with one eye open becomes a habit.
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Well, blogs are mildly terrifying for the respective subject, especially if the blogger gets a lot of attention AND what he has to say isn't always positive. There is a lack of responsibility when blogging. That's not to say bloggers are inherently irresponsible. Some are and some aren't. I'm simply saying they answer to no one. I think most people who rely on the internet for news, especially pool news, have learned where to go for the truth. I suddenly feel spoon-fed, like I'm incapable of distinguishing what's crap.
According to the WPBA website, "President's Message Coming soon!" Perhaps they should get on that so we can refer to their site for news and not the blogs.
It is unfortunate that the ladies cannot comment here any longer. I always appreciated their perspective.
But I'm not surprised that this is happening. Most major corporate entities have policies about comments made to the public. The company I work for has such a policy. I cannot represent myself as an employee of said company to the newspapers, radio, TV or the internet, without the corporate media relations teams approval. The company I work for isn't any major big deal, like Microsoft or GE or anthing really big. I know this is the case in many other companies.
I realize that these ladies don't actually "work" for the WPBA, but they are associated with the WPBA in order to be allowed to participate in their events. So I am not surprised that the powers that be have flexed their muscles a bit in this case.
Again, while I'm not surprised, it is sad to not be able to read the ladies opinions and viewpoints here any longer. Perhaps in time that policy may be relaxed. Hopefully. :frown:
But I'm not surprised that this is happening. Most major corporate entities have policies about comments made to the public. The company I work for has such a policy. I cannot represent myself as an employee of said company to the newspapers, radio, TV or the internet, without the corporate media relations teams approval. The company I work for isn't any major big deal, like Microsoft or GE or anthing really big. I know this is the case in many other companies.
I realize that these ladies don't actually "work" for the WPBA, but they are associated with the WPBA in order to be allowed to participate in their events. So I am not surprised that the powers that be have flexed their muscles a bit in this case.
Again, while I'm not surprised, it is sad to not be able to read the ladies opinions and viewpoints here any longer. Perhaps in time that policy may be relaxed. Hopefully. :frown:
Well, I'm hoping that perhaps this is a temporary measure. Eventually we're going to get to a point where either this GS deal is made (or some deal is made) OR a small number of events will remain on the calendar. I don't think the board is going to impose very many restrictions on its players if they're not going to have another event until late July. On the positive side, if the WPBA gets a GS jumpstart, they may encourage their players to be more public.
Part of being involved in a successful organization of any type is putting group goals ahead of personal wants needs when the time comes for it. You can not have it both ways. Most people get this. I could sit here and tell you some stories about the WPBA which would paint the organization in a less than flattering light, the thing is that saying those things in public would not help the organization move forward. Addressing them in private with the people who can change them can help things without stirring up needless drama. It is called being a grown up.
As for the whole dream thing that is fine. The reality is the WPBA is a player run and owned group. Dreams are nice but we live in reality and the reality is no one is going to have a place to play if things don't change.
Maybe they need A Joe Rogan !
I want to add that I am all for personal expression and people speaking out when they feel they need to. That should be balanced with the responsibility of standing behind ones words. As long as someone is willing to stand behind what they say and put their name and reputation behind it and be willing to defend their position I think they deserve respect.
It is the anonymous shit stirring that makes me nuts.
It is the anonymous shit stirring that makes me nuts.
Everybody should read this twice, walk away for about an hour, come back and read it again!
Then you might want to tell this to the adults within the organization, who are showing what seems to be contempt for any who question their INDIVIDUAL goals or authority, when instead, it SHOULD be group goals, and no one individual, shouldn't HAVE any authority. The presidency is a FIGUREHEAD title only, and it seems like certain individuals not understanding that, is in fact what is generating the aforementioned drama.
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Why would it drive you nuts when the whole point is that, for some, speaking up and identifying oneself, when there apparently IS a cloak of silence that forbids it, might be detrimental to ones future.
What if they want to speak out but can't because they are a public figure?
It's not like they can actually come on here and just name themselves, now can they.
To take that a step further, what if speaking up with your own opinion not only hurts you but others as well? I am a VERY opinionated person, yet I don't get on the azb forums much because I want to comment on a lot of things. But being that I am closely associated with the OB Cues Ladies Tour, I refrain from typing what I really would like to say out of respect for my Tour and our sponsors. I would never want anything I said to reflect negatively on my Tour or sponsors. You can say all day that it doesn't, but we all know it would.
I know this because I do the exact same thing. Everytime someone posts their personal opinion here online, and their signature tag lists some kind of company name, cuemaker name, etc., I will automatically associate those comments (usually whenever its negative) with that company, and think twice next time I think about doing business with that company.
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Do you think the rumored bounty that John put out for anyone who could give him that bloggers name had anything to do with him closing his site? If you had seen him in the players meeting then you would have been scared too. I am almost glad that this is the only event this year.
May not be too long before he puts a bounty on you.
Yet by some people's logic, J.R. is more deserving of respect then you, because regardless of how he may act, how belligerent he may be, and how much contempt he shows to everyone else, he at least has his name out there for all to see.
Yet when people need to remain anonymous, and maybe because of threats and self protection, they aren't deserving of respect.
Funny how this world works.