When will this end?

By the way, Glen Atwell won the singles event. Nice job.

I play with a 314 2 predator shaft and a Meucci that is getting beat up. I decided it would be nice if I got a new Predator shaft and a nice looking butt to go with it. My plan is to keep the old stick hidden in my vehicle at all times so I will never find myself having to play with a house stick ever again.

Someone mentioned a waterproof case. Any advice there?

So I saw a Lucasi butt that I really liked the look of with some 3d chrome looking rings for about $250 but didn't buy because I wondered if I should pay more for something nicer that might have a nicer hit. But isn't all the action in the shaft?

I talked to my mentor and he mentioned C4 technology in a Predator butt and I looked into it. I didn't understand it.

Should I just get a good looking butt and rely on the shaft for the feel? What percent of a difference can a butt make?
 
By the way,

I had a ball. We were up 12-5 in a race to 13 in our first match and we loss eight straight!

Our next match we came back and won a hill-hill thriller with an incredible shot that Joe made where he had to use inside so avoid scratching in the side as he sent the 8 down the rail and barely squeezed by the 5.

We got into the money and I made a lot of cool new friends.
 
Also my captain played a guy who shot in the eight ball then walked over to shake hands and their captain said, "Uh you still have a stripe left on the table!"

The guy felt sick of course and their team explained that my captain who was playing him was the only one who could of told him he still had the nine on the table and kind of gave him a hard time about it.

Coaching is a loss of game so they couldn't say anything.

Thoughts?

I'm not quite sure I understand the situation you are explaining here but I am curious about one thing (I don't play league). If the only thing his Captain said to him was "You still have a stripe on the table", does that constitute coaching? I would think that statement falls under public knowledge rather than constitute giving advice.

What is the rule in this regard? Thanks.

Also, doesn't he lose the game anyway for illegally pocketing the 8 ball?
 
Monk Schmonk...

It's still flu season around here and I agree, I don't like shaking everybody's hands at league night.

Bang knuckles and wish 'em well.

And keep Purell in your case, just in case. :D

Yours Sanitarily,

KC
 
I'm not quite sure I understand the situation you are explaining here but I am curious about one thing (I don't play league). If the only thing his Captain said to him was "You still have a stripe on the table", does that constitute coaching? I would think that statement falls under public knowledge rather than constitute giving advice.

What is the rule in this regard? Thanks.

Also, doesn't he lose the game anyway for illegally pocketing the 8 ball?

After the game their team wondered if it just would have been a ball in hand foul if they would have told him not to shoot the eight in yet. My captain called a ref over and the ref confirmed it would have been loss of game had they made him aware of the stripe still on the table.

Most of them knew it would have been a loss as soon as they said something so maybe they just hoped he would get up before he shot and notice the nine at some point or even better they may have just hoped he missed the eight. There you go. It wasn't an easy shot so they did the right thing not to say anything strategically.
 
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After the game their team wondered if it just would have been a ball in hand foul if they would have told him not to shoot the eight in yet. My captain called a ref over and the ref confirmed it would have been loss of game had they made him aware of the stripe still on the table.

Most of them knew it would have been a loss as soon as they said something so maybe they just hoped he would get up before he shot and notice the nine at some point or even better they may have just hoped he missed the nine. There you go. It wasn't an easy shot so they did the right thing not to say anything strategically.

But didn't he lose the game the moment he sunk the 8 ball?

Also, telling him not to shoot the 8 yet because he still has a stripe on the table is most definitely giving advice. That's a little different then telling him after the fact that he still had a stripe on the table, since there is no effect after the fact. I mean at the point he sunk the 8 ball he has already lost the game so what is the effect if his Captain THEN tells him he still had a stripe left up. Even if the penalty is only ball in hand for your Captain, nothing changes since he has given up the table already in any event.

But I'm still under the assumption that he lost the game when he illegally potted the 8 so even if he was coached isn't it kind of meaningless. He already lost the game the moment the 8 went in, before anything came out of his coach's mouth, no?

I'm probably missing something here. I had a hard day at work, forgive my denseness, Luxury. ;) As I said before, I don't play league pool so I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just want to understand the rules in this situation. Thanks.
 
It's still flu season around here and I agree, I don't like shaking everybody's hands at league night.

Bang knuckles and wish 'em well.

And keep Purell in your case, just in case. :D

Yours Sanitarily,

KC

I am starting to like the knuckle thing, being about your vintage I am more used to seeing my boys doing it rather then myself but it makes sense. From a germ stand point I would much rather have them on my fist then on my palm and finger tips. Purell can also be used to dry your bridge hand for a smoother stroke (I have tried it and it works).
 
But didn't he lose the game the moment he sunk the 8 ball?

Also, telling him not to shoot the 8 yet because he still has a stripe on the table is most definitely giving advice. That's a little different then telling him after the fact that he still had a stripe on the table, since there is no effect after the fact. I mean at the point he sunk the 8 ball he has already lost the game so what is the effect if his Captain THEN tells him he still had a stripe left up. Even if the penalty is only ball in hand for your Captain, nothing changes since he has given up the table already in any event.

But I'm still under the assumption that he lost the game when he illegally potted the 8 so even if he was coached isn't it kind of meaningless. He already lost the game the moment the 8 went in, before anything came out of his coach's mouth, no?

I'm probably missing something here. I had a hard day at work, forgive my denseness, Luxury. ;) As I said before, I don't play league pool so I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just want to understand the rules in this situation. Thanks.

Yes he loses the second he illegally pockets the eight and we had no problem with them telling him about the nine after the fact. It's my fault. I had to edit my last post. I had said they had hoped he would miss the nine when I meant to say they stayed silent in hopes that he would miss the eight because then it would just be a ball in hand foul and my captain still had four balls to run.
 
Yes he loses the second he illegally pockets the eight and we had no problem with them telling him about the nine after the fact. It's my fault. I had to edit my last post. I had said they had hoped he would miss the nine when I meant to say they stayed silent in hopes that he would miss the eight because then it would just be a ball in hand foul and my captain still had four balls to run.

So I'm not crazy? Thanks, Lux.

Now a question. Say he did miss the 8. Then his Captain says to him, "You still had a stripe on the table." Is that loss of game?
 
I wondered if the Asians might be right on with the bow. A good head nod is like a bow, there are no germs involved and your hands aren't getting sticky.

We shake hands also brother.:smile: and bow
 
Dude you must be really tired.After he misses the 8 foul is called.At this point he would know about the 9.:thumbup:
 
Playing in league? Sorry, this never ends:rolleyes: One of the reasons I won't play in leagues is because of stuff like this and worse.
 
Dude you must be really tired.After he misses the 8 foul is called.At this point he would know about the 9.:thumbup:

You are correct - MAYBE! But you are assuming the incoming player is going to call the foul.

Consider this scenario. The guy shoots at the 8 while he still has a stripe of his on the table. He misses the 8. The incoming player looks over the layout and has it pretty good with the balls in position as they are. He decides to NOT call the foul with the idea that if he doesn't happen to run out, his opponent may still not have figured out his previous error and shoot at the 8 again.

Again, I'm not intimately familiar with BCA league rules so I don't know if there is a penalty for a player to not call a foul on his opponent. Assuming there is no such penalty this scenario is a distinct possibility.
 
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I think as long as some effort is made to show respect, it doesn't matter what form it takes. It just has to come across as sincere and not halfhearted. I'll take a nod with a small smile over a quick dead fish handshake any day. I don't worry about the whole germ thing. The secret is to just be the dirtiest guy in there. Then you can't catch anything.
 
I think as long as some effort is made to show respect, it doesn't matter what form it takes. It just has to come across as sincere and not halfhearted. I'll take a nod with a small smile over a quick dead fish handshake any day. I don't worry about the whole germ thing. The secret is to just be the dirtiest guy in there. Then you can't catch anything.

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Uh, sorry CreeDo. You want to use my hanky to wipe that off?:o


I'll offer my hand after any match, win or lose. If they don't want to shake it, that's their choice.
 
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