Cue TIPS

JoeyA

JoeyA

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Everyone seems to have their preference for tips and I'm no different. I was talking to one of the best players on AZBilliards about what he uses but really wanted to hear if he cuts the size of the tip down and if so, to what size (when it is brand new).

Some people like to wear the tip down, break it in and use all 1/2" height of the leather tips. I have the installer cut mine down a bit but it NEVER seems right for me until it is almost in need of replacement. :embarrassed2: I whittle on the tip when it is new using a Willard Scuffer and hit lots of balls trying to "break it in" (whatever that means).:)

I've often wondered if it is just the getting used to a tip that makes the tip play so well when it is short or if it is the shortness that simply provides a better hit.

Regardless, I am going to start cutting down all of my tips in the future at least down to 3/32" in height. While I'm going on about all of this, I guess I will add that I measure the height of the tip by the NON-DOMED portion.

Kind of wish the tip makers would make tips a little shorter and give the consumer a break on the price for the lessor numbers of layers. Paying $16 for a layered tip and cutting off 4 layers right off the bat from a 10 layer tip seems a little ridiculous on the surface. :frown:

Just curious as to what the rest of you do and why!

JoeyA
 
FWIW, I prefer a non-layered tip. My favorite is the 'ol reliable Triangle. And why, I don't know, but I like the tip to have all the leather on it (as little trimming as possible). Different strokes for different folks, so the saying goes!!!

Maniac
 
I have to like Moori Med It never wears out. Just ***** it and burnish the sides.
I have wondered how people like the other new Layered tips?

Bluey
 
As for me I always cut mine about halfway down before I hit a ball with it,but I use a Triangle and its not layered
 
JoeyA said:
Regardless, I am going to start cutting down all of my tips in the future at least down to 3/32" in height.

While I'm going on about all of this, I guess I will add that I measure the height of the tip by the NON-DOMED portion.




Just curious as to what the rest of you do and why!

JoeyA
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I like going down to around 3/32" also.

"I don't like new tips that are too tall. It's like having a big ol' birthday cake on the end of my shaft" - John Schmidt, DCC '08

Fred <~~~ not fond of tall tips or birthday cakes
 
i have my tips cut to 3/32"'s or a hair less not including the dome, I use Triangles and change them out often.


I dont understand why some layered tips are so tall, i see no purpose for that, perhaps I just dont know something.
 
Fatboy said:
i have my tips cut to 3/32"'s or a hair less not including the dome, I use Triangles and change them out often.


I dont understand why some layered tips are so tall, i see no purpose for that, perhaps I just dont know something.
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Same here, but I do it myself. Triangles get hard after playing with them for awhile. I probably change mine every 2 months. It's a good tip and you can't beat the price. I also have LePros on 2 of my cues. I do the same with them, but don't use them that much so only change them when bored. Johnnyt
 
I use Le Pro and have it cut down a little when installed. Then I go to a table and hit the cue ball hard about 100 times (like a break). This seems to break it in pretty good.

I have tried several layered tips but like the Le Pro better. Why? Because I think the glue in the layers gets slick and does not hold chalk as good. Not a scientific reason, but just my though.
 
Not sure how far I cut mine down. I just keep shaping it with a leather knife on my lathe until it reaches the height I want....never measured, but I always seem to know when to stop.

Snipers are my favorite and since I install em as well I get a discount which is nice. The only other tip I really liked other than a Sniper was a Moori medium. Next time I change tips I might switch it up and use one since I have a few of em laying around and they do look pretty darn good.
 
I prefer cut down milk dud on a 3/4" uncapped ivory ferrule. I have never like a full tip.
 
I like Moori Mediums. The one on my playing shaft is down to about 1/8 in now and feels just about right. I like them because they last forever and don't need any maintenance. I haven't taken a tip tool or pick to mine in 3 months and it feels great.
 
Moori Medium and I immediately have it taken down to about 2 to 2-1/2 layers. I had one installed recently and tried it at about twice that and hated it. Trimmed it down and it hits great....
 
For some unknown reason, beyond my comprehension, the really good players in Northern California only have leather covered ferrules.

Just a thin layer of leather with a tiny dome in the middle.

Rafael's tip is so small, you wonder how it keeps from sounding like pure ferrule being hit all the time.... and he hits them pretty good.

Personally, I like to cut my tips in half... no birthday cakes for me... too much cushion on the top... No feel.. IMHO
 
JoeyA said:
Everyone seems to have their preference for tips and I'm no different. I was talking to one of the best players on AZBilliards about what he uses but really wanted to hear if he cuts the size of the tip down and if so, to what size (when it is brand new).

Some people like to wear the tip down, break it in and use all 1/2" height of the leather tips. I have the installer cut mine down a bit but it NEVER seems right for me until it is almost in need of replacement. :embarrassed2: I whittle on the tip when it is new using a Willard Scuffer and hit lots of balls trying to "break it in" (whatever that means).:)

I've often wondered if it is just the getting used to a tip that makes the tip play so well when it is short or if it is the shortness that simply provides a better hit.

Regardless, I am going to start cutting down all of my tips in the future at least down to 3/32" in height. While I'm going on about all of this, I guess I will add that I measure the height of the tip by the NON-DOMED portion.

Kind of wish the tip makers would make tips a little shorter and give the consumer a break on the price for the lessor numbers of layers. Paying $16 for a layered tip and cutting off 4 layers right off the bat from a 10 layer tip seems a little ridiculous on the surface. :frown:

Just curious as to what the rest of you do and why!

JoeyA
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I just played one of the best and most knowlegeable players on the boards here a few nights ago. He had a brand new off-brand layered tip put on his cue and it had the full meatloaf piled on. He miscued and had all kinds of problems with it. Thank goodness - otherwise I would never have gotten a shot! Anyway, I looked at the tip and it basically looked like a miniature mile-high stack of pancakes. We both knew it would be history the next day.

OK some advice for you guys who are making their own layered tips - just leave it to Tiger and those companies to make the layered tips - and buy them.

To give you the rest of the story, on my new OB Classic I waited until the Everest hardened up a bit - about two weeks of play, and trimmed the sides, then I took it down one more layer. Measured at the sides (not the dome) it's .15 of an inch, or 3.8 mm. or 5/32. This is with a nickel shape, 12.75 mm width, including the pad. For that size and shape, this is stiff enough for a medium hard tip to hold it's shape pretty well at contact, yet there's a good enough cushion left so the contact feels great.

I haven't miscued once with the Everest on the OB Classic shaft - I'm lovin' it.

Chris
 
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I like two right now. 1) Pressed Elkmaster/superglued sides/12.75 mm/Aegus ferrule/3/32ish-on the heavy side of the line/combo dime-nickel radius/holds shape well/occasional tip pick to re-suede/takes chalk well/draws nice with slow accelerations/applies side with grip/great feedback. I like it.

2) Moori medium. Same dimensions. Same sides. I like it too-but not as much as the Elkmaster.

I want to feel what going on with speed and spin. I don't hit alot of shots hard-unless its required. I spin the ball too much. It's a bad habit-but ...
 
I use Muellers Dudley tips(milk duds) and take a third off the top as soon as it is put on and then shape it. I get the 14mm's and sometimes the height of the tip is different.:thumbup: Ron
 
i use everest cut too 1/2 the original size.

just 2 weeks before SBE i tried a moori medium i cut it down a few layers at a time i felt it was the worst hitting tip ive ever used.

LePro's are great tips if you get one that doesn't mushroom repeatedly
 
Using Kamui Blacks, I leave as much meat on it as I possibly can, and I love it that way. I think with the single layer tips, they need to be left fairly meaty and played a bit so you smash it down. After the break in period, you can trim the edges, and take a bit more off, and then it will be good to go unless you compress it first. I do that with all the single layer tips I put on. Doesn't matter if it is a Triangle, LePro, or Elkmaster. Sometimes, I use milk, and sometimes I don't.. using milk, or actually buttermilk is the best way to compress the tips, but sometimes I just don't want to fuss with that.

If I put on a Kamui Black, I install it meaty, then after a little while, I shave some off, and it is good to go ..... and that's with me breaking with it.....

I know I've been talking a great deal about Kamui Blacks lately, but that is because I haven't seen anything else that even comes close to it...... and the price to me is well worth it......

I do agree about the lower profile tips though. I think they make em meaty like that so you have more options, and if you wanted to, you could use that one tip dang near for the rest of your life..... I suppose we shall see on that one....
 
TATE said:
I just played one of the best and most knowlegeable players on the boards here a few nights ago. He had a brand new off-brand layered tip put on his cue and it had the full meatloaf piled on. He miscued and had all kinds of problems with it. Thank goodness - otherwise I would never have gotten a shot! Anyway, I looked at the tip and it basically looked like a miniature mile-high stack of pancakes. We both knew it would be history the next day.

OK some advice for you guys who are making their own layered tips - just leave it to Tiger and those companies to make the layered tips - and buy them.

To give you the rest of the story, on my new OB Classic I waited until the Everest hardened up a bit - about two weeks of play, and trimmed the sides, then I took it down one more layer. Measured at the sides (not the dome) it's .15 of an inch, or 3.8 mm. or 5/32. This is with a nickel shape, 12.75 mm width, including the pad. For that size and shape, this is stiff enough for a medium hard tip to hold it's shape pretty well at contact, yet there's a good enough cushion left so the contact feels great.

I haven't miscued once with the Everest on the OB Classic shaft - I'm lovin' it.

Chris
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Measuring the sides of the tip (not the dome), like you said, is the best type of measurement. You're still a little on the high side for my tastes but I haven't shot with my son's OB Classic which just arrived yesterday.

Now I have to get his cue and try it out.

Thanks for all of the details that you put into your posts.

JoeyA
 
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