"sword fighting" with cue sticks

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How many have "sword fought" with cue sticks when you were kids, even pretty big kids? That is how all of my house cues for my home table were destroyed. When I got tired of buying cues for awhile I bought those awful $6.99 aluminum cues from Howard Bros. They still got bent up sword fighting but they didn't shatter and have splinters and huge chunks of wood flying everywhere. I'd bend them back sorta straight when we were ready to play pool again. Anybody that has played with a bent up aluminum cue thinks a little warping of a wooden cue just ain't an issue!

Hu
 
Hu,

I never "sword-fought" with cue sticks but I did nail (and I mean NAIL) my across-the-street childhood friend Billy with a flag pole from the local golf course (the kind that goes in the hole) while my brother had him on the ground in a choke-hold. We were re-creating the movie "Spartacus" in our backyard. I just flung the darn thing from an estimated distance of about 30 ft. and caught him right smack in the right temple. Peeled back a LOT of flesh (100+ sutures if I remember correctly). After my dad got through with me, I moved on to roles in less violent movies (although we did later cause a minor injury to another kid re-creating "The Pit and the Pendulum" with a garden spade and a swing set).

We got a pool table in our garage later on when we were in our teen years and although we probably abused the equipment, I don't remember ever sword-fighting with the cue sticks.

Maniac
 
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Hu,

I never "sword-fought" with cue sticks but I did nail (and I mean NAIL) my across-the-street childhood friend Billy with a flag pole from the local golf course (the kind that goes in the hole) while my brother had him on the ground in a choke-hold. We were re-creating the movie "Spartacus" in our backyard. I just flung the darn thing from an estimated distance of about 30 ft. and caught him right smack in the right temple. Peeled back a LOT of flesh (100+ sutures if I remember correctly). After my dad got through with me, I moved on to roles in less violent movies (although we did later cause a minor injury to another kid re-creating "The Pit and the Pendulum" with a garden spade and a swing set).

We got a pool table in our garage later on when we were in our teen years and although we probably abused the equipment, I don't remember ever sword-fighting with the cue sticks.

Maniac

Maniac your story just jarred a gruesome memory from my childhood, (not pool related):

Remember the jarts yard game? The plastic little ring you lay down on the lawn, and hurled the metal four wing missiles a mile into the air? We were probably around ten y/o or so, the kids we were playing against thought we threw all of ours already, and one of them ran over to their ring to pull them out, just as I launched one a mile in the sky towards him.

We all yelled, and he looked up just as it zeroed in on his left temple, missed his eye by a fraction. Glancing blow that opened up a nice flap. It seemed like time stopped as it fell from the sky. Hearing it hit his orbital bone made me sick to my stomach. He got up holding his face and sprinted home.

To make my post semi pool related, after our drunken pool team won a big match, I swung my buddies Meucci so hard the shaft busted in half. Like I dummy I threw away the slotted shaft joint ring, which cost me extra $$ to have made. That made me quit drinking for 24 hours :o

Kevin
 
Never done that but like Maniac I was swinging an aluminum bat one day hitting tree limbs above one of my good friends knocking rain on him. The next swing he ran the way I was swinging the bat, catching him in the back of the head. I hit him so hard you could hear the "ping" you get with aluminum bats and I started laughing cuz I didnt think he was hurt. After he got up off the ground he ran straight towards his Mothers house as the back of his head was split open. 13 stitches later and a night in the E.R. he came back home.:o
 
my table, my sticks

Hu,

I never "sword-fought" with cue sticks but I did nail (and I mean NAIL) my across-the-street childhood friend Billy with a flag pole from the local golf course (the kind that goes in the hole) while my brother had him on the ground in a choke-hold. We were re-creating the movie "Spartacus" in our backyard. I just flung the darn thing from an estimated distance of about 30 ft. and caught him right smack in the right temple. Peeled back a LOT of flesh (100+ sutures if I remember correctly). After my dad got through with me, I moved on to roles in less violent movies (although we did later cause a minor injury to another kid re-creating "The Pit and the Pendulum" with a garden spade and a swing set).

We got a pool table in our garage later on when we were in our teen years and although we probably abused the equipment, I don't remember ever sword-fighting with the cue sticks.

Maniac

It was my table and my sticks. Destroying family property would have gotten me a hiding as would deliberately destroying somebody else's property. I was seven when I played Tarzan with my brother's BB gun. I still remember that whipping.

We started carving knives and swords out of wood when I was six or seven too. Parents didn't have a problem with us playing with such things then and whacking on each other. After a tent pole was destroyed I made a dandy spear/lance out of the aluminum point and a long piece of two by two I carved down. They considered taking it away but what the heck.

Of course I was seven when my parents gave my brother and I fiberglass long bows for Christmas. While we were told we couldn't shoot each other with them my parents didn't have any real clue what they had given us until I shot an arrow into the air and it disappeared. It was finally found when my dad was mowing the front pasture several hundred yards away!

Your tales remind me how ungodly accurate we can be when we don't want to be. Funny how things usually work out the worst way possible or very close to it!

The most amazing thing about my pool table, sword fighting, and boxing in the living room was that there was a picture window right by a long rail of my pool table and it never was broken. Some smaller windows were broken so often that they were finally replaced with masonite so that big window surviving everything including flying pool balls and sticks was amazing.

I'm jealous of your pit and pendulum creation. I wanted to do that for years when I first read Poe or had him read to me but never had a suitable pendulum. I cast eyes on dad's double bladed axe thinking the head would make a good blade but as mentioned he had narrow minded ideas about other people's property and his ideas were explained in a way I would remember, particularly concerning major transgressions!

Hu
 
No sordfighting but I did break a cue over my brothers arm on accident when I was younger. I meant to stop short of hitting him but misjudged the distance. LOL He was so pissed I had to run up stairs and lock myself in the bathroom untill my parents got home.
 
Oh well!

No sordfighting but I did break a cue over my brothers arm on accident when I was younger. I meant to stop short of hitting him but misjudged the distance. LOL He was so pissed I had to run up stairs and lock myself in the bathroom untill my parents got home.

This thread was started to illustrate a point that everything involving pool equipment isn't pool related but I have to admit that it is one of the most entertaining threads I have read in ages without a downside for anyone.

Locking yourself in the bathroom reminded me of my oldest sister locking us out of the house when we were chasing her for something she did. The parents gave up on the window in the back door too, it was the first to be replaced with masonite after being replaced every few months for awhile when she locked the door on somebody in hot pursuit. There was a lever lock on the inside of the door that was easy to reach with the window broken. My sister locked herself in her bedroom to escape too. My older brother was redheaded with a temper to match. She learned to keep food and drink in the bedroom because it might be twelve hours or more before our parents got home and she was not escaping the room before then! My brother was either waiting at the door or lurking around the corner in the hall hoping she would come out and get a step too far from safety.

We learned a lot at a tender age from reading Edgar Rice Burroughs, Poe, Rider Haggard, and the great works of this nature. :D

Hu
 
No sordfighting but I did break a cue over my brothers arm on accident when I was younger. I meant to stop short of hitting him but misjudged the distance. LOL He was so pissed I had to run up stairs and lock myself in the bathroom untill my parents got home.

Whenever I used to p*ss my big brother off, I too would head for the bathroom. If I sat on the toilet and braced my feet on the closed door, it was perfectly distanced to where if I locked my knees, he couldn't get in come-hell-or-high-water. Later, in my high school years, I had the next to the strongest legs in the school (determined by the Leg Press on the weight machine*) although I was 6'1 and only 155 lbs. I guess p*ssing off my brother so many times reaped some rewards later on, eh???

Maniac

* 3 sets of six @ 660 lbs. Not bad for a skinny long-distance (Track) runner. The only guy in school who could out-lift me was a 220+ lb. lineman on the football team.
 
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How many have "sword fought" with cue sticks when you were kids, even pretty big kids? That is how all of my house cues for my home table were destroyed. When I got tired of buying cues for awhile I bought those awful $6.99 aluminum cues from Howard Bros. They still got bent up sword fighting but they didn't shatter and have splinters and huge chunks of wood flying everywhere. I'd bend them back sorta straight when we were ready to play pool again. Anybody that has played with a bent up aluminum cue thinks a little warping of a wooden cue just ain't an issue!

Hu

My cousin is 16 and thinks he is a gangsta. We play pool in my shed a lot and when he gets out of line and I smack him, we usually start sword fighting with the house cues. We actually broke a Viper a few months ago. The forearm snapped.
 
That was embarrassing-

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How many have "sword fought" with cue sticks when you were kids, even pretty big kids? That is how all of my house cues for my home table were destroyed. When I got tired of buying cues for awhile I bought those awful $6.99 aluminum cues from Howard Bros. They still got bent up sword fighting but they didn't shatter and have splinters and huge chunks of wood flying everywhere. I'd bend them back sorta straight when we were ready to play pool again. Anybody that has played with a bent up aluminum cue thinks a little warping of a wooden cue just ain't an issue!

Hu


Was out two-steppin one night at the dance hall. They had a couple of bar boxes. The house cues were not straight. I tried to 'bend' the dog-leg out of one that curved the last foot of the shaft. I planted the tip on the slate, held the butt up at about 45 degrees and with the other hand pressed down hard about 10 inches from the tip.

SNAP!!

I pretty much shattered the shaft just forward of the pressured point.

That was 15 years ago, and I still haven't lived it down with some of my buddies. Plus it cost me $10 for the broken house cue.

Another example of beer and pool shenanigans.

Never did play a game that night.
 
Funny how things usually work out the worst way possible or very close to it!

Hu


And even funnier how no one ever got killed. We used to have those air guns that looked like a .45 automatic. You even had to pull back on the thing like a real gun to set the air in. You could use BB's or pellets. We would take those aluminum garbage can lids and use them as shields and then just go at it. God can only know how many BB welts we had all over us. And surprising how no one lost an eye.

When we got older we did the same thing using roman candles. Again, surprised no one was killed or burned severely.

Totally unrelated to pool but how many of you are old enough to remember making a canon out of old beer or soda cans?
MULLY
 
red riders vs the 22 rifle copies

And even funnier how no one ever got killed. We used to have those air guns that looked like a .45 automatic. You even had to pull back on the thing like a real gun to set the air in. You could use BB's or pellets. We would take those aluminum garbage can lids and use them as shields and then just go at it. God can only know how many BB welts we had all over us. And surprising how no one lost an eye.

When we got older we did the same thing using roman candles. Again, surprised no one was killed or burned severely.

Totally unrelated to pool but how many of you are old enough to remember making a canon out of old beer or soda cans?
MULLY


BB gun wars were popular when I was a kid. Round up your friends and the other guy rounded up his and we went to town with the Red Rider lever actions. The last Christmas we had gotten the bigger more intimidating looking 22 rifle copies. Just a spring gun but it reloaded with a short stroke back and forth like the 22 rifles.

The Red Riders held hundreds of bb's and our guns only held 60 or a hundred or something, I don't remember. A lot less. However they shot harder and a lot faster since we never had to take them from our shoulder and could hose bb's out.

Some folks from the other side of the bayou proposed a war so naturally we accepted. They never did find out our guns didn't hold many bb's. The rate of fire and the harder sting when we hit somebody had the other side hollering they quit as soon as we scored a few hits, they said we were gonna kill somebody with those things. :D :D :D

Never held roman candles, too many people badly injured when half the charges blew out the bottom at once. Back when we could buy bottle rockets we bought 20-30 gross at a time though. We had huge wars with the neighbor two doors down to the lasting annoyance of the folks in between. This was all in fun though, between friends. I did sneak in an ICBM a time or two just for grins but . . .

Hu
 
Funny you should mention BB guns and fireworks, both were my passion back in the 60's and early seventies. It was tradition during the 4th of July to empty all the bb's out of your bb gun. Then I would take the small fireworks that we called Ladyfingers and shove them into the bore of my Red Ryder bb gun so that just the fuse stuck out.....I would then cock the gun and use my trusty punk to light the fuse. If you were quick you could then reach out and "touch" you buddies from about 50 feet away. Those were the days:D.
 
Reminds me of a somewhat gruesome story from my childhood/youth. We were vacationing in Miami Beach at the Beau Rivage Hotel in 1957 I believe. I was only 12 or 13. I made a buddy who was as curious as me, and we ended up on the roof of the hotel. All kinds of equipment up there, including a few things that had a fan belt running between two pulleys. There were a couple of small ones and a large one.

Being naturally destructive I shoved my foot into one of the small belts and knocked it off the pulley. The kid with me decided to do me one better. He tried the same thing with the large fan belt, except something went very wrong. His foot got pulled by the belt down through the large pulley, around it and out. He lay on the ground with his big toe hanging by a thread and bleeding like hell. I yelled down from the roof as loud as I could until someone heard me. After maybe five minutes security guys came up there and soon there were lots of people on the roof all over the place. They pretty much forgot about me, but one guy asked me what we were doing up there. I told him we were just looking around.

They took him to the hospital and I never heard from him or anyone else again. To this day I cannot forget that incident and it taught me a good lesson. Don't mess around with stuff you know nothing about!
 
Jay-The best kind of life lesson

Reminds me of a somewhat gruesome story from my childhood/youth. We were vacationing in Miami Beach at the Beau Rivage Hotel in 1957 I believe. I was only 12 or 13. I made a buddy who was as curious as me, and we ended up on the roof of the hotel. All kinds of equipment up there, including a few things that had a fan belt running between two pulleys. There were a couple of small ones and a large one.

Being naturally destructive I shoved my foot into one of the small belts and knocked it off the pulley. The kid with me decided to do me one better. He tried the same thing with the large fan belt, except something went very wrong. His foot got pulled by the belt down through the large pulley, around it and out. He lay on the ground with his big toe hanging by a thread and bleeding like hell. I yelled down from the roof as loud as I could until someone heard me. After maybe five minutes security guys came up there and soon there were lots of people on the roof all over the place. They pretty much forgot about me, but one guy asked me what we were doing up there. I told him we were just looking around.

They took him to the hospital and I never heard from him or anyone else again. To this day I cannot forget that incident and it taught me a good lesson. Don't mess around with stuff you know nothing about!


is when the other guy takes the hit. Sad but true.

You got a good roll there.

Reminds me of when we played "John Wayne" grenade toss as 10-11 year olds. Gerber baby food small glass jars with fire crackers inside. Hole in the lid for the fuse. Light it-wait, wait, then the straight arm lob. My buddy went first-they were his firecrackers- he waited too long. It went off inches from his hand-cut up a couple of fingers pretty good. Fortunately, he was hurt bad enough to avoid a parental ass whooping, but not bad enough to lose a finger.

Lesson learned-Yeah-you go first Mikey.It is amazing that most of us survived growing up largley unscathed.

Remind me to tell about shooting a hole in my hand just weeks after getting a whipping for unauthorized .22 rifle use.

I been stupid a long time.

In those pre-Video game days-we were told "go outside and find something to do. Don't come back till dinner time!". Do you think it was a parenting plot to get rid of us??

Good times.

Take care(for real)
 
As un-pc as it is to say this, kids are pussified these days. All that crap we did was like a rite of passage for boys my age. Nowadays kids are waaaay over protected. Not that I think kids should do dangerous things but let's be fair, the old saying "boys will be boys" doesn't hold much water these days.

My elementary kids went camping this past weekend. 6th graders. Anyway, they went on a night hike and the male teachers found a good place to lead them to and then one of them would be hiding and waiting to jump out with a mask on and scare the bejeezus out of them. Guess what? FAIL!! The female teachers wouldn't allow it. I just shook my head. It's just sad.
MULLY
 
Lesson learned-Yeah-you go first Mikey.It is amazing that most of us survived growing up largley unscathed.

Hell, I WAS Mikey!!!


I been stupid a long time.

How do you think I got the nickname "Maniac"? I was the guy who would do ANYTHING for a laugh.

To quote Rodney Daingerfield: "It ain't easy being me" !!! I've got the scars to prove it.

Maniac
 
Lucky to be alive

Reminds me of a somewhat gruesome story from my childhood/youth. We were vacationing in Miami Beach at the Beau Rivage Hotel in 1957 I believe. I was only 12 or 13. I made a buddy who was as curious as me, and we ended up on the roof of the hotel. All kinds of equipment up there, including a few things that had a fan belt running between two pulleys. There were a couple of small ones and a large one.

Being naturally destructive I shoved my foot into one of the small belts and knocked it off the pulley. The kid with me decided to do me one better. He tried the same thing with the large fan belt, except something went very wrong. His foot got pulled by the belt down through the large pulley, around it and out. He lay on the ground with his big toe hanging by a thread and bleeding like hell. I yelled down from the roof as loud as I could until someone heard me. After maybe five minutes security guys came up there and soon there were lots of people on the roof all over the place. They pretty much forgot about me, but one guy asked me what we were doing up there. I told him we were just looking around.

They took him to the hospital and I never heard from him or anyone else again. To this day I cannot forget that incident and it taught me a good lesson. Don't mess around with stuff you know nothing about!

Jay:

This story reminds me of something that *I* did to myself -- I was the "loser" in this particular exchange.

Back where I was growing up in Yonkers, NY (in Westchester County), there was a park called "Cochran Park." It consisted of a large open field with two opposing baseball diamonds, and on three sides of the park, were fenced-off cliffs that dropped onto the street below. (Cochran Park was actually the very top of a steep hill that the road crews dynamited the sides off to build roads around it; it was sort of shaped like a large cube, with the park at the top, except that one of the sides was left intact with a large inclined path/walkway to get to the park. Lots of childhood stories concerning what we did on those steep cliffs, but I digress and that remains as stories/accounts for another time.)

Each baseball diamond had that typical tall chain-link fence enclosure that went around two sides of the baseball diamond. It was the classic "bowl turned on its side" shape, where the batter is standing inside the bowl facing out towards the pitcher. The official name for this "bowl on its side" fence area behind home plate is called the Backstop. It looks like this:

baseball-backstop.jpg

...except the ones at Cochran Park have a much longer "umbrella" that extends out and over the batter box, about a third of the way out towards the pitcher. This is obviously to catch errant hits that might fly out of Cochran Park onto the streets below.

So, as kids, on non-game days, being the hyped-up-on-Fanta-and-Nehi-soda kids we were, we'd have races up the Backstops. Climbing races, that is. With a running start, to see who can sprint up the back side of the Backstops the fastest, and stand atop the Backstop, admiring the view (because Cochran Park was the highest point in that part of Yonkers).

There was one problem, though. The Backstops consisted of two parts: a 20-foot high vertical chain-link fence, and a curved portion that was attached the top of the 20-foot high vertical part. The cut ends of the chain linking at the top of the 20-foot high vertical were NOT pruned or bent over. All along the top of that 20-foot high vertical, you had these "V"-shaped forks that were the cut ends of the chain-link fence material. Normally, these are bent downwards to prevent people from getting cut or punctured. But obviously, the installers of these Backstops decided that no human would ever be up that high, so they left them intact. They look like this (the cut-ends, that is):

fence-tensioners.jpg

So on one particular rainy day, my friends and I were doing our Backstop climbing races -- taking about a 30 foot head start from behind the backstop, running towards it, and with a special rapid stair-stepping maneuver combined with some quick hand-over-hand, bound up the entire 20-foot height up onto the roof of the Backstop.

I did say it was raining that day, right? And we were wearing our sneakers (Converse, Pro-Keds, or Pumas -- those were the top three in those days). Needless to say, wet sneaker rubber contacting wet steel are not the safest conditions.

After one of my buddies had one false start where he slipped during his climb, he finally made it up to the top of the Backstop. He cautioned me that it was slippery, and to really dig-in to the [diamond-shaped] holes in the chain-link with the tips of my sneakers. I take my running start, and with my very first try, I make it nearly to the top of the 20-foot vertical, and was in the process of maneuvering over the top of the vertical, onto the roof of the Backstop, when the unthinkable happened. Both of my sneakers slipped out of the chain-link "holes," and I took a plunge straight down. Except I never hit the ground. Remember those "V"-shaped cut-ends at the top of the chain-linking I was telling you about? One of them caught me deep under the chin during my plunge straight down, about three inches behind the apex of my chin. Luckily, I tend to clench my jaws closed when I'm climbing, otherwise, the impact would've slammed my lower jaw into my upper jaw, and I would've most certainly shattered all my teeth. But the "V"-shaped barb penetrated my lower jaw, right through the fleshy center, and my tongue was literally "cradled" between the prongs of the "V".

It was a through-and-through puncture wound, and the entire weight of my body was supported by my lower jaw. From my point of view, all I remember was that split-second "oh sh*t" reaction when I felt my sneakers slip loose from the chain-link "holes," and then a bluish-white flash of light like someone took a picture, or as if I were struck by lightning. In fact, when I regained my composure, I literally thought I was struck by lightning; I couldn't move. After everything came back into focus, I tried to turn my head, but couldn't. All I could feel was this "iron fist" right under my jaw, holding me prisoner. I started moving my arms and legs, and realized I wasn't on the ground -- I was in the air, hanging. I could see the chain-link fencing of the curved/angled roof of the Backstop just inches in from of my eyes; I remember seeing the paint flakes, and they looked huge, like I was viewing the surface of the steel under a microscope. And it was only then I realized I was impaled. I felt the prongs of the "V" under my tongue, cradling it, and I tasted that classic metallic taste of blood. Lots of it. It was filling my mouth, and spilling out the sides, in fact. Amazingly, I kept cool. I felt serene, for some reason. Probably those endorphins flooding into my bloodstream at that moment, or something.

Anyway, out of the corners of my eyes, I was able to see the rest of my crew on the ground, looking up at me, and was able to watch the transformation of wide-eyed "what the h*ll just happened?" look, into the reality-based "oh my god!" look. The look of horror, like they were watching someone die. (It was later that one of these buddies relayed to me what he saw -- what I felt with the blood flow inside my mouth, was only a fraction of what was coming out the other side. He said they watched the front of my white T-shirt transform into red in a matter of seconds. I'd severed an artery in my lower jaw.

Luckily, a local firehouse was nearby (a branch of the Yonkers fire dept.), and one of my friends sprinted to it. It was only a couple minutes (seemed like an eternity to me), but I finally heard the classic wail of the fire pumper engine. They had to drive the truck right up to the rear of the backstop, and use the "cherry picker" to lift a fireman and an EMS up to me. I remember both of them grabbing me and lifting slightly to take the weight off my lower jaw, all the while talking gently to me, reassuring me that I'd be ok. But I wasn't crying or anything. By the looks on their faces, maybe they were doing this to reassure themselves that I was going to be ok. But with a combination of lifting me up, and using a large towel to push and squeeze into my jaw to control the bleeding, they were able to get me free of the chain-link barb. I don't think it was but a matter of seconds before I was rushed into an awaiting ambulance that'd arrived during the impalement-removal procedure. I don't remember the ride to the emergency room, because at that point, I'd lost enough blood to black-out.

I woke up in a hospital bed, and all told, I received about 50 sutures to close the through-and-through wound. Luckily the flesh was "popped apart" (cleanly separated), and not torn through. I still have a very noticeable scar to this day, right under my chin, where my beard hairs don't grow. I am lucky to be alive, that's for sure.

One poster mentioned that today's kids have it easy, that they spend their entire days on their duff playing video games, that they've not gone through the trials and tribulations of yesteryear's youth. I couldn't agree more. The impalement story is only one of mine where I'd either seriously injured myself, or else did an incredibly stupid thing that *should have* killed me. But being thankful that I'm still here, I can say it added character. At least it makes for great around-the-campfire stories -- except these really happened to me.

Hope I didn't give anyone the heebie-jeebies.

-Sean
 
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