Another Poor Soul Will Be Screwed on Ebay

Joss

What do you think a fair offer would be.
It's a nice cue, Fellini case, extra shafts.
I was thinking around $4000 which would only be about 82% off of the Buy-It-Now price.
 
You are about 1000 off of what I was thinking. Maybe even 1200. I was thinking about 2300 for the cue and 500 for the case. There is one thing about the description that makes no sense to me. How can an untouched cue be used for 30+years? And also have bumps and bruises? I was always under the impression untouched is another way of saying new.

And there is no doubt it is a nice cue. But come on, 22,500 for a Joss is beyond ridiculous. For that price you could buy MANY, MANY nice cues out there. Hell you could buy a real nice Szam, BB, Bushka, Searing or, well just too many to name. I just thought it was funny.
 
subdude1974 said:
You are about 1000 off of what I was thinking. Maybe even 1200. I was thinking about 2300 for the cue and 500 for the case. There is one thing about the description that makes no sense to me. How can an untouched cue be used for 30+years? And also have bumps and bruises? I was always under the impression untouched is another way of saying new.

And there is no doubt it is a nice cue. But come on, 22,500 for a Joss is beyond ridiculous. For that price you could buy MANY, MANY nice cues out there. Hell you could buy a real nice Szam, BB, Bushka, Searing or, well just too many to name. I just thought it was funny.
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i like the "i will not ship it. local pickup only"
kinda limiting his potential sales a bit, isnt he? :rolleyes:
 
Sometimes the local deals go this way.
Seller "I'll let you have it for $12,000 cash. Just meet me by the # exit on the intersate with the cash. I'm leaving my wife and don't want her taking half of everything."

Buyer meets seller, seller has no cue but has a gun to relieve seller of $12,000. Johnnyt
 
News flash!!! Anybody that spends more that 500 bucks on a piece of wood is getting screwed IMO and that's a liberal amount. I wouldn't pay more than 250 bucks for a piece of wood that I could put a 2 dollar Triangle tip on, sand the shaft down with 600 + 1200 paper till it's smooth as a babies ass and play just fine with it.

All the rest of the price has nothing to do with value, its got to do with hobby, collectors interest, and no price can be put on that.

Investment? LMFAO You wanna throw money into investments, I think housing is a better bet than pool sticks. Wait, I think anything is better than pool sticks.

See it for what it is, blind lust for something some people somehow want and price has little to do with it.
 
Come on $22,500 WTF!! :shocked2:

Whatever this guy is smoking must be really messing with his head and as Johnnyt mentions local pick up, meet me at so and so, not a freaking chance dude! You deliver it here to my local coffee house, next door to the Police Precint and I'll give you $500.
 
3andstop said:
Investment? LMFAO You wanna throw money into investments, I think housing is a better bet than pool sticks. Wait, I think anything is better than pool sticks.

See it for what it is, blind lust for something some people somehow want and price has little to do with it.
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I wish i would known this 15 years ago.I got enough ebay cues to build
a couple houses worth a little more than nothing.
 
$2,250.00 I just sold five 1968-1972 JOSS cues and was lucky to get $1,500.00 at most for one. This cue was made early 70s but after 1972 Stroud left in 72. Nice cue worth in the $2k range w/ the fellini case IMO. Must have been a typo or they had a senior moment when listing this cue.
"country" Bob
 
3andstop said:
News flash!!! Anybody that spends more that 500 bucks on a piece of wood is getting screwed IMO and that's a liberal amount. I wouldn't pay more than 250 bucks for a piece of wood that I could put a 2 dollar Triangle tip on, sand the shaft down with 600 + 1200 paper till it's smooth as a babies ass and play just fine with it.

All the rest of the price has nothing to do with value, its got to do with hobby, collectors interest, and no price can be put on that.

Investment? LMFAO You wanna throw money into investments, I think housing is a better bet than pool sticks. Wait, I think anything is better than pool sticks.

See it for what it is, blind lust for something some people somehow want and price has little to do with it.
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Many would argue that the legitimately high-end cue market has done quite well, and generally tends to be a good investment. If you have the right stuff, it appreciates in value. Just ask anyone who bought a Szamboti or Balabushka in the 70s for a few hundred bucks and could sell it here, today for $10,000 ... in under 6 hours.

Interesting you mention housing as a good investment, as we are in the middle of the worst housing market in the history of civilized man. Just ask my mother, the real estate broker, how good the housing market is. She knows people with half million dollar houses that had to sell for $200k just to be able to stay above water.

Pool cues, the right ones, are collector's items. Just like anything else, they have a following (a very large one in this instance) that is always looking for more. If you spent $2,000 on a new custom cue from one of today's well-regarded cuemakers, put it in a safe for 20 years until they died, and then sold it, I guarantee you just made yourself a hefty chunk of change.

My point here is this: When you come onto a billiards forum literally overflowing with people who collect cues and say, "News flash!!! Anybody that spends more that 500 bucks on a piece of wood is getting screwed IMO and that's a liberal amount." Well, in my opinion, that's just pissing in a lot of people's Cheerios.
 
9BallMarksman said:
Interesting you mention housing as a good investment, as we are in the middle of the worst housing market in the history of civilized man. Just ask my mother, the real estate broker, how good the housing market is. She knows people with half million dollar houses that had to sell for $200k just to be able to stay above water.
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Thank you for making my point for me. As I said in my post now is the time to invest in houses. When you can steal them.

If your love and interest is in high end cues, good for you, but it is ridiculous to consider them for investment when so many better investment options exist outside the pool world.

These purchases are for pleasure, enjoyment and hobby.

Now, listen, I can go out and buy a few pieces of equipment and go in my garage and build a car that would take me a half dozen years to reinvent the wheel that already exists.

Can't see it will drive any better or worse, it will still get to to the market for cereal though. Oh, yeah, my time in the making of this car will cost you 5 million dollars.

Or, you can go out and buy one of those production junk box Lexus cars.

If you need my one of a kind car, then you aren't getting ripped off. That's my point. Money has little to do with it because it ain't worth more than 40K period.
 
Here's the response I got when I "inquired" about his price... LOL

"I bet you live in a trailer and are on welfare! I don't come to you and call you names. If you don't like my cue, or my price, just go on the the next item and keep your comments to yourself. I have already refused several offers for my cue including a 9000.00 offer. Get over yourself LOSER!!!"

nice.....:D
 
If doubt someone is screwed on this one. If they are stupid enough to think this is a decent deal, they've probably already been screwed out of all their money.
 
3andstop said:
News flash!!! Anybody that spends more that 500 bucks on a piece of wood is getting screwed IMO and that's a liberal amount. I wouldn't pay more than 250 bucks for a piece of wood that I could put a 2 dollar Triangle tip on, sand the shaft down with 600 + 1200 paper till it's smooth as a babies ass and play just fine with it.

All the rest of the price has nothing to do with value, its got to do with hobby, collectors interest, and no price can be put on that.

Investment? LMFAO You wanna throw money into investments, I think housing is a better bet than pool sticks. Wait, I think anything is better than pool sticks.

See it for what it is, blind lust for something some people somehow want and price has little to do with it.
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News flash!!!
Anyone who buys Vincent van Gogh or any other old paintings for that matter for more than $250 is an idiot. I guess this makes sense for this guy as well.
 
3andstop said:
News flash!!! Anybody that spends more that 500 bucks on a piece of wood is getting screwed IMO and that's a liberal amount. I wouldn't pay more than 250 bucks for a piece of wood that I could put a 2 dollar Triangle tip on, sand the shaft down with 600 + 1200 paper till it's smooth as a babies ass and play just fine with it.

All the rest of the price has nothing to do with value, its got to do with hobby, collectors interest, and no price can be put on that.

Investment? LMFAO You wanna throw money into investments, I think housing is a better bet than pool sticks. Wait, I think anything is better than pool sticks.

See it for what it is, blind lust for something some people somehow want and price has little to do with it.
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It is about the artwork, and the friend that built it.

I have many cues all worth much more than money. I will never forget the friends that built them for me. I do rotate through them, and anytime I open my case and one has dust it, he goes out to play with me.

I will agree with you on one thing. THERE ISN"T A CUE ON PLANET EARTH made by a MACHINE worth much...dont CONFUSE art with PRODUCTION...

There are PEOPLE that spend years working a cue till it is in your hands...MACHINES TAKE SECONDS TO BUILD the most popular pieces of crap used today.

Some of the posters here some have put 1000 hrs into one cue, and you are going to act like it isn't worth more than $500.

Ok rant over...I hope you see my point...
 
This guy slipped bumped his head, then got up said ouch and then walked infront of a bus.:speechless:
 
well you may have a point...

if "3andstop" is also a description of your pool game... then yes you should probably just stick with a 200$ cue. JK :grin-square:

however I'd be careful with the 600grit paper.

Putting a price on things like cues is so much more than the sum of the parts. I would hope that since you've been around here for a while you'd understand that.

HERE'S YOUR NEWS FLASH!!! A cue is worth EXACTLY the amount someone is willing to pay. Whatever their reasons. The market sets the price and guess what? if NO ONE will pay 3k for a South West then it's not worth 3k but I think we both know the reality of that specific example.





3andstop said:
News flash!!! Anybody that spends more that 500 bucks on a piece of wood is getting screwed IMO and that's a liberal amount. I wouldn't pay more than 250 bucks for a piece of wood that I could put a 2 dollar Triangle tip on, sand the shaft down with 600 + 1200 paper till it's smooth as a babies ass and play just fine with it.

All the rest of the price has nothing to do with value, its got to do with hobby, collectors interest, and no price can be put on that.

Investment? LMFAO You wanna throw money into investments, I think housing is a better bet than pool sticks. Wait, I think anything is better than pool sticks.

See it for what it is, blind lust for something some people somehow want and price has little to do with it.
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I "inquired" about his price too! The response was very polite so I have nothing bad to say.. If he get's it, all the power to him..


ugotactionTX said:
Here's the response I got when I "inquired" about his price... LOL

"I bet you live in a trailer and are on welfare! I don't come to you and call you names. If you don't like my cue, or my price, just go on the the next item and keep your comments to yourself. I have already refused several offers for my cue including a 9000.00 offer. Get over yourself LOSER!!!"

nice.....:D
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